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For all the Trump administration’s talk of saving money and increasing “government efficiency,” the president demanded that huge amounts be appropriated in the Republicans’ recent budget bill to fund his mass-deportation program.

In all, $170 billion was set aside to be spent over the next four years for border and immigration enforcement. This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons), $30 billion for ICE operations, $46.6 billion for more border wall construction, and, as if that weren’t enough, a new $10 billion border patrol slush fund.

This level of funding is unprecedented. ICE is now the highest-funded law enforcement agency in the country. And that fact raises a question: What exactly are they going to do with all that money?

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 days ago (8 children)

This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons)

Now why would they need such a big budget for concentration camps if they're deporting the illegal immigrants? Seems like a big waste to build all those facilities and have them sit empty after the job is done.

Or is it more likely they're going to start rounding up other people too? Trump just announced they're going to go after homeless and mentally ill people. And we know they consider trans people to be a danger to themselves and gay/bi as deviants. We've also seen a rise on attacks against political opponents. Trump even wants to charge Obama with treason.

This is exactly the Nazi playbook from the 30s. And the American public is letting him do it.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 days ago

For comparison, the Trump Admin just approved a 5000 bed tent camp at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX. The contract was awarded to Acquisition Logistics for $1.26B.

That's $252k per bed. There's easily enough money there to build single family homes for every one of them, and even that would be wasteful. (And yes, even in high cost of living areas, the sheer scale involved would almost certainly bring costs below that number).

When we say "the cruelty is the point", this is why. There's a lack of other explanations for their actions.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are already constructing a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo. The EO was signed, and the $250 million contract awarded, months ago, with absolutely no peep from the media, then or since.

For context, Guantanamo currently has a capacity for up to about 250 people. The average maximum security prison in America holds around 800-1200 people. The largest prison in America is in Angola, LA, and holds about 8000.

So this new facility will hold almost 4 times as many as our biggest prison, and about 30 times more than our average prison. Guantanamo is in a remote corner of Cuba, so if they are so hot to deport all the illegals, who do they intend to house there, out of sight of the courts, their lawyers, and the media?

I suspect it will be AMERICAN political prisoners - media, opposition candidates, protest organizers, loudmouth celebrities, etc.

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[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To not be American and watch this all unfold truly shows us what Americans are all about. Around the globe we've listened for a long time about how dominant they are in everything but when it comes to standing up for themselves and their fellow man, they sit down.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

"Land of the Brave"

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group, so when the cage is done with them and you're still poor. It come for you.

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[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 82 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Disaster in the making? It's already a fucking disaster. ICE agents have been granted additional slack above and beyond that already extended to normal cops, who frequently abuse it. This is going to be a fucking American Kristallnacht for Latinos, with more groups set to follow in the wake of these broad constitutional and legal abuses.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's true that our current situation is a disaster. it does not diminish the fact that an even bigger disaster is being constructed while we process and attempt to repair this disaster. the old ice agents are bad, evil, and cruel, but they were also all recruited under a different framing of what ICE is supposed to be. the new ones will have absolutely no compunctions, no reservations, and no hesitations.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Yup, combined with the EO from Friday allowing for involuntary civil commitment, more and more people outside latinos are going to start disappearing. I'm just waiting for them to consider having liberal views a mental disorder.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They are going to go after trans people.

Is anyone going to do anything when we start being committed?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Short of hijacking a bulldozer and driving it through the exterior walls of these detention centers at risk of getting myself killed, I legit don't know what to do with anything at this point.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

...they are paying bounties on extra-judicial arrests...

bounties.

for arrest without trial.

...barring decisive impeachment and conviction in eighteen months, there is no way this doesn't end in blood and fire...

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

But but the Epstein files bro just wait for you'll see everyone will confirm for sure again that he's a rapist and we'll defeat facism bro don't forget the Epstein files trust me bro

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bad news, they are gonna end up hiring a bunch of proud boys. Also bad news, they won’t do the job right, and we’ll pay loads of money in lawsuits and end up with far too many funerals

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

Hmmm 🤔

First, as if proud boys aren’t already IcE members. Not that I have proof, but I would be very surprised if someone proofed that no ICE members sees themselves as a proud boy.

Second, wasn’t it clear from the beginning, that with ICE, an American version of SS was created?!

(For those who don’t know German Nazis and Hitler: SS was the private army of Hitler making sure that nobody attacks Hitler’s ideology from inside)

History always repeats itself, and it is infuriating…

[–] splount@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We are going to see some real Abu Graib type shit in no time at all with the culture of abuse and rushed training. But will any of the immovable 40% who voted for this start to question our embrace of cruelty on a national level? Meh...Look at the baubles!

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Time to buy firearms and start training.

Help everyone you know purchase firearms and help them train.

Form networks.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm a former gun salesman, and while I don't condone pre-emptive violence, I am happy to advise people about the process of purchasing a firearm and selection of a first firearm for hunting, recreation, or self-defense.

The biggest piece of advice for a beginner on a budget is to get something affordable but reliable over something overly fancy and expensive. Put the savings on the firearm into ammo for training. A $400 Canik plus a few thousand rounds of training ammo is more effective at making you a good shooter than a $1500 pistol and a single box of ammo.

I have a $7000 custom precision rifle with a $3500 optic on top. With my years of experience, I can shoot about 1% better than with a $700 rifle/scope combo.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People should start following bros back to their operating centers then following them home. Create a catalog publicly showing their homes to the public. See how that goes for them SS officers.

When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

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[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Someone else posted this in a comment thread. Just want to make it more visible....

https://icelist.is/

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[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

It's almost like Trump wants to make his own personal army that takes orders from him alone.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And Europe just agreed to finance it!

Violent global revolution is the only and last hope left for humanity. Arm yourselves.

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[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fine them. Find their families. Publish their info.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's too bad a doxxing website for ICE would get shut down easily or the operators disappeared...

...otherwise I'd totally create it.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Could be backed up as an .onion site relatively easily by people who know what they're doing.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

One of these days these guys are going to be in a shootout and its all going to go south guickly.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Honestly, the sooner the better. Americans need to be made undeniably aware that this administration and the party that supports it is fine with using lethal force on American citizens. The sooner that wake up call happens, the less entrenched this fascist regime will be when Americans finally decide to act.

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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

hopefully it leads to moles getting in.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I'm wondering how long until the ICE agents who drag me off are all on H1-B visas.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is how they will do their kristelnacht (day of the rope)

They are gathering data on all of us

That is what the army is for

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Night of Broken Glass, dude

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago (5 children)

they're saying america's version will be broad daylight lynchings. he's translating not the german to english, but the nazi to maga

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's Kristallnacht, Christel has nothing to do with any of this.

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We know what they want to do with the money because we saw WWI and WWII; create an army directly responsive to the president to facilitate ethnic cleansing and usher in eugenics.

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[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can we please start to use the correct term for “ICE”:

American SS
Or just
🇺🇸 ⚡️⚡️

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] NikolaTeslasPigeon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I wonder what measures they'll be taking to filter out a would-be saboteur? Would be really hard if the target is to hire 10k people.

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

...give it some time, and it'll be death squad. Just plain killing people, cheaper than sending them away.

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