We expect this. Angry MAGAs expect this, so if this happens no one would believe her.
Also Trump has zero respect for women, even Maxwell. He may not pardon her even if she does a performative confession. And she knows this.
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I'm pretty sure Congress just forced a vote to subpoena the unredacted files, they need to be delivered within 30 days.
The admin has been ignoring roughly 1/3 of court orders. I wonder if this'll be the one that pushes things to an inflection point.
Wake me when this actually happens and they don't simply ignore it like they have been for most everything else. Hard to enforce rule when the ones you're up against control the methods of enforcing those rules.
You can’t subpoena that which has been destroyed.
then the question becomes, why did you pardon this woman who trafficked children to be used as sex slaves?
Because she's very sorry for what she did and she promised to never do it again and she redeemed herself by tattling on these just-so-happen-to-be political enemies of trump, the end. Isn't that beautiful?
republicans suddently okay with rehabilitation, but only if they are willing to bootlick
That's a much easier thing for his supporters to swallow, unfortunately.
I'm not so sure. Maxwell is in a tighter spot than people realize.
She either has to name all. Or name none at all. Because the ones not named won't let her live. Not holding that kind of leverage over their heads. And if she flips on anyone. She'll flip on everyone. Or at least that's my thinking.
100% and I'm sure that anyone named probably knows a few others on the list and won't go down without dragging every one else
the ones she named that can be verified, will want her gone as well, or they will go scorced earth and name names that are on the list, granted they dont have the documents themselves, but if they have been in the same places as the people on the list they would have some kind of record of them being there.
Trump's list gonna be like
Barack Obama
Michelle Obama
The Obama kids whatever they're fuckin' called
Their shitty little dog
That asshole guy who made the diaper blimp
All of them were on that island fucking kids with Epstein until Trump saved the kids and gave them new mommies and daddies and everyone clapped and loved him.
The end.
I'm surprised he hasn't already tried this line of defence. "I'm on the list because I was saving the kids! My name's only on there because I was on Epstein's list of enemies!"
But once she's pardoned, she can say whatever she wants
Trump can't revoke her pardon
Yeah, but then she might kill herself
She'll probably stab herself 6 times in the back, then shoot herself in the head 3 times just to make sure.
She should definitely stay away windows in tall buildings
Its not really a matter of him doing it. Its a matter of how long his government can withstand constant mounting pressure to do so. And how long until someone in the administration cracks and leaks them. Bondi honestly doesnt seem like she can handle this forever.
There's a real part of me that thinks he might not plan to come back from Scotland. A delusional hope that maybe he sees the writing on the wall as his own politicians turn against him, knowing that conclusive proof that he is a child molester will likely become public soon. And his usual waffling about hoaxes and treason just isnt sticking, not even close. Every single choice he has made in the past 2 weeks has made things worse.
And then she's gonna "jump" out of a window...
You don't pull shit like this and leave loose ends, which is the only reason she might not go along with this. She's evil, but she's not an idiot.
I have this little nugget of hope that she goes, "You're going to kill me anyway, so fuck off."
Or even better, there's some tiny little Darth-vader sized bit of good left in her from whatever tragic backstory led to her becoming a sex trafficking monster, and she's going to just steer right into the torpedo and find a way to either publicly go on record laying it all out or trigger the deadman's switch that I'm at least stlightly convinced might be the only thing that has kept her alive to date.
That would be a glorious way to go. "CUT HER MIC!"
shes an idiot if she even names one of them, the reason is they would go scorched earth and start naming the people that were on the island/ or on the list themselves, since more than likely they all met at the same location at some point and they would know who went there too, besides maxwell.
If Trump pardons her, what's to stop her from just fucking off to Belize and releasing the rest of the information anyway? A pardon is a liability, imo.
she is a target on her head, all those people on the list would want her head before she spills too much info.
There's a lot of hope being pinned on the probably uncorroborated testimony of a coconspirator being questioned by agents of a prime suspect. I have a hard time seeing either side accepting anything that comes out of it.
They've basically invalidated whatever testimony she ultimately gives. So then all we can believe are the thousands of incriminating documents, photos, lawsuits and depositions given under oath before Trump was even in office
I mean, the first lawsuit against her was by a 16 year old she poached from Marlago where she was already working as a massage therapist...
And those sealed court records still exist, but are from 2017 during Trump's first term.
Like, why the fuck does everyone gloss over that Marlago was hiring 16 year old "massage therapists"?
If you ask me, 16-year-olds shouldn’t be massage therapists.
Or life coaches.
A 16 year old life coach sounds like a direct to TV Disney movie.
And now I need that movie.
I want this except it's a 30 year old incel literally living in his mother's basement...somehow working as a life coach.
He's the competition. They beef when the 16 year old girl who's life coaching.
The incel ends up lifecoaching her mom to ground her,
Also the girl ends up lifecoaching hey principal. Which she uses to get out of trouble, but then she grows as a person and admits to what she did and suffers no consequences because she is a white girl in a Disney movie.
For all the kids of billionaires to get a massage from
Nah trump won't release anything. republicans and establishment democrats both doesn't want them released. I bet the Biden Admin kept a copy of the original list and would release the full list as a form of Mutually Assured Destruction in case republicans released a partial "Maxwell's list".
I think the MAD is viable insurance, but also a campaigning tactic for democrats in the future. but also dont want to harm potential dem politicians or megadonors as well.
didnt she just get offered 'limited immunity' by DOJ? whole world: Pikachu face
She's 60 with a 20yr sentence. Immunity doesn't matter since she's already incarcerated. She's dying in prison, Unless she gets a presidential pardon.
Which doesn't really help him, as his base won't be happy until he releases the files
Let's be real, his base will be so happy if Maxwell names Clinton as a client that they will forgive him for being a pedo.
Naive to think they won't simply fall in line. Dump is gonna jingle some keys, the idiots will forget everything, and go right back to their blissful, bigoted ignorance.
I'm not so sure, a lot of people have skin (money) in the game of unlocking these files
"I swear every transgenderist and drag queen went through pedo Island and every immigrant knew Epstein I swear"
Sounds kinda like the Röhm-Putsch.
Been wondering when the long knives were going to come out.
Liberal wonks are noticing Trump got passed all the stuff the oligarchs want, and Vance is Thiel's minime finger puppet.
But then Knitting Cult Lady observes cults of personality don't trade leaders easily unless it's set up well in advance, and MAGA went from a cult-of-idea (Post-Reagan republicanism, which is white-power conservatism) to a cult of personality (Trump) which is unusual. You can't fix Pandora's jar here.
So a lot of the 2025 bingo squares are in play.
This is absolutely true. Bill Clinton is sweating rn
So other than Bill Clinton who are we thinkin
Dershowitz, probably. Too old and not useful enough to protect. Bill Gates, maybe. Prince Andrew.
Trumps problem is that whoever gets fingered might have receipts of their own.
Maybe, they’ll just release names of people who are already dead and hope anyone they left behind can’t prove anything or won’t try.
Step away from the lathe
Trump has no reason to pardon her to get cooperation. Prison is hell and it takes very little in the way of amenities to drastically upgrade her experience.