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[–] fedditter@feddit.org 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Use a password manager like keepassxc

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Or Bitwarden for cloudsync

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can use keepass with cloudsync.

Just have the password file in a cloud.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like pain in the ass, I really like the auto-fill feature of Bitwarden... (or in my case vaultwarden as backend)

[–] T0RB1T@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Bitwarden is great! However, Keepass(XC) can do autofill as well.

The only complication is keeping sure your cloud copy is up to date, or your machines are all kept in sync without conflict with something like syncthing. I actually really like the ways you can tweak KeepassXC.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

or a notebook

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 47 points 1 week ago (13 children)
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then you can generate a password so big and complex, the site or app starts begging you to stop. At that moment, you can say "ur password system is weak."

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Careful with that. Sometimes a site will allow you to use some stupid long password when you sign up, but then it turns out that some other version of the site or an app for it on other platforms won't accept a password that long!

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's okay, I just want to hear "it's too big"

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 3 points 1 week ago

I mentioned lemmy passwords in the other reply. Guess how I found out

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 8 points 1 week ago

In lemmy, password length is capped to 60. Weak.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Almost, but KeepassDX is better 😎

[–] owsei@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not a service you're paying for. It is just a password manager.

Though tbh, I don't know all of bitwardens spesific details.

It's at least open source, but can you have your passwords stored anywhere other than their servers? What if the company changes path - can you just use another fork or are you stuck.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 17 points 1 week ago

Bitwarden is self-hostable and foss, with some unofficial software already out there. Not much opportunity for the company to entrap customers if it went evil.

IMO, for most people it's best to just send them to register at bitwarden. It's less hassle so they might actually follow through, while being infinitely better than what they were doing before.

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

KeePass and literally any of it's derivatives. Not just DX.

I use Keepass2Android, KeePass XC, Keepassium, and the OG KeePass.

They are all solId.

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 5 points 1 week ago

Yes but it's opt in, not opt out, it's not shoved down my throat unlike most other companies.

Arghh, why is every company thinking, that AI will make them valuable...

"Let AI retrieve, generate and manage all your credentials"

Yeah a definite nope, for what reason do I use bitwarden? So that exactly this doesn't happen...

Anyway vaultwarden is what I'm using, much more performant and self-contained, compatible to bitwarden (but you need to host it, obviously)...

[–] markz@suppo.fi 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't wait to have chatgpt post my passwords online

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[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

password managers save my life very hard

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, are we just going to pretend dictionary attacks don’t exist?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

It would seem so, yes.

Evidence: xkcd is never wrong. :-P

(Although I have always wondered about that aspect yes... perhaps an attack has to switch between trying random letters and random words, which may limit its effectiveness, and still keep the number of words high? What if we swapped out letters like c0rr3ct? - b/c obviously hackers have never heard of 1337 5p33ch before. Yeah I really have not looked this one up, hence default to the joke answer above. irl I use the FOSS KeePass and a large string of random crap... but that is nowhere near as funny to say as correct horse battery staple:-D

Also, https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/936:_Password_Strength does talk about this - but unless it is in the references, there is not too much depth there, e.g. a dictionary may have a certain number of words, but I doubt that they are all used equally - some werds oft encroaches upon my visage with verily greater frequency of occurrence by comparison to alterity, so while in the sense of spherical chickens sliding on a frictionless surface a dictionary attack "may not be viable", in practice I highly suspect that a way could be found to find, if not one specific password, then at least somebody's password within a large bank of them.)

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 week ago

I don't know how but I went way too long without a password manager. Changed my life. I recommend Bitwarden. I also use it to store like, my bank account number or my tax number.

[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Password manager

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

Password security and password manager howto should be an essential part of education. But then again if that happened, schools would probably teach how to use some proprietary cloud-based app with built-in datamining, because lobbying. It would only be a matter of time before everyone would find out the company was storing everyone's passwords in plaintext after they all leaked.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Correcthorsebatterystaple (somebody link please)

Edit: Most places wont allow it due to character requirements and length limits, but it does work and is cryptographically sound.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep and then they require you to put special characters, numbers, and capital letters because.... Reasons?

I would be the one getting hacked, not them.... Let me do what I want.

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

It's just because of entropy. More entropy is more secure.

Also sure, it's you getting hacked, but it's the service that got hacked that will have all kinds of news stories written about their weak password requirements.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also, chbs without aA!%12345ing is way harder to inject code with.

Not that anyone is allowed to code considerately and well anymore.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me write a fucking passphrase instead of ABCabc123! And let me use fucking ã, ñ, é, ç, etc on my passwords - Microsoft doesn't allow spaces or latin special characters

Forcing people to use upper case, lower case, number and special character is terrible for them and vastly increases password reuse. Besides, almost no one brute forces anything anymore, it's all rainbow tables and invading the database server

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

None of the characters in your post are special characters. It's not your fault, but I hate when tech folks call stuff like ñ a special character. That's a real character that a real language uses.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

At home I have a notebook, at work I have a system, so I can deduce the password most of the times.

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