He thought HOA meant hand outs available. It’s blazing hot af, who would care for some cold water? Yeah, what a turd this guy is. Goddamn hoa needs to stroke out & get a new board.
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I found an update about the vote to remove the three board members.
Homeowners voted 190 to 20 in favour of removal, however the board cancelled the vote claiming there wasn't a 24 hour notice given to the community and subsequently that 210 votes might not qualify a quorum of more than a thousand homes.
Those kinds of shenanigans get HOAs nullified by court order.
Oh, that will go well. Piss off people and make their vote not count. The people that know where you live and can see your front door...
To play devil's advocate for a moment, having a sufficient vote notification period is important.
Though if that were the board's true concern, they surely would have announced intention to notify the community alongside their statement cancelling the vote for this reason, which hasn't happened insofar as I can tell.
Voting details:
According to recent census data, Goodyear has 2.7 people per household. It doesn't say for the city specifically, but Arizona appears to have a minor population of 21%. I saw in the statement this association represents "over 1,000" households. In my experience, that could mean anywhere from 1,001 - 1,099 homes. The city of Goodyear held a vote earlier this year to approve a water utility contract, which lists an expected voter turnout of 17%.
By this, I'm guessing less than 3,000 people live in this community, with about 2,400 eligible to vote on an association proposal, but likely around 400 people that would go to the effort of voting on such a tedious issue.
I think that if half of the community shows up with less than a day's notice to make themselves heard, that's probably representative enough for how the community feels about these board members.
I appreciate your comment.
I dislike administrative issues on votes being called out by the board after the vote takes place. When administrative issues are noted after the vote, it looks like the board is trying to subvert the membership.
Thank you. I did think about that also.
'Volunteers' did the counting, but surely they should have known or been informed that a quorum of votes equal to x% of the community are required for the vote to be valid. If the count doesn't meet or exceed that value, discard the ballots.
Or even why was the vote permitted to take place in less than the required notification period? I presume the answer to these questions is either incompetence or bravado on the part of the board members taking their position for granted.
I find it unlikely that if the vote had went the other way, the board would have had the integrity to raise the same objections.
Donald stated you’ll never have to vote again… retards cheered. This is how it will start.
Luckily both of those are easy to remediate. The bylaws state what is a quorum and you can give more notice. This won’t stop things.
Well that sucks. I don't know what their rules are, but having dealt with shitty HOA's, if all the rules of the agreement were followed and you get their attorneys involved, their attorneys in most cases will tell those dickheads knock it off if the agreement was followed. This sounds like a violation on the HOA's part of the agreement but again, I don't know how it's written. I do know if an update was pushed every single resident shall have received the update for it be valid and they shall have a copy of the agreement ready upon request. I hate shitty HOA's. Good luck to them.
How anyone that lives in a country that has HOAs can unironically call it "land of the free" is beyond me
Some HOAs can be quite nice as they're just there to add some basic community rules. However, many are hijacked by a handful of narcissistic individuals who let this insignificant amount of power go to their heads and they turn into a bunch Mussolinis
Having served on the board of my building, you see what slobs and mindless people you share the planet with. Letting their pets piss in the hallway. It gets cleaned by staff, right? What's the problem? Compost stinks, leave the bin in the hallway! Doesn't matter as long as I don't smell it, right?
That's the thing, the sheer amount of imbeciles who occupy these units make you question how society got to this point.
"ProPTeRy VaLUes!"
No one sees any value in just living in their homes. They have to be statements on your personal wealth, and though that, statements on your character as a human being. Living under the thumb of narcissists is a small price to pay so your neighbor doesn't look poor.
If you’re in a state with ballot measures, then you could campaign for rules against single family home HOAs.
HOA seems to be such a stupid thing. Glad there's nothing even remotely that bad everywhere.
The good news is he read the HOA agreement, initiated a special meeting through signatures, and now the neighborhood is holding a special election to remove the dickhead board members.
And the update is… fuck off, 210 votes is not counted for. Someone updated the comments
Thank you, comment that summarises what's in the article, I was afraid I might have to read the article to get the full picture.
Ugh this isn't what HOAs are for!
HOAs are intended to harass and discriminate against black and brown people so that they don't move in, or at least immediately leave.
Not white guys with majestic beards.
He must've been giving water to black or brown people, it's the only justifiable reason.
HOA's are for people who used to be in positions of perceived power at work but now they're retired and they miss bossing/bitching at people.
HOAs are intended to harass and discriminate against black and brown people so that they don’t move in
Lol I was going to make a joke here about "Redline Homes Inc." - but it turns out there really is such a company, in Oklahoma of course.
No good deed goes unpunished.
My favorite HOA conflict:
https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/epic-hoa-parking-boot-battle.572540/
TL;DR - HOA boots a car parked outside a guys house. He puts the car up on dollies and pushes it into his garage.
They accuse him of stealing the boot.
He tells them they can come get it any time they want.
They tell him it's $140 to remove the boot.
He tells them "Nah, it's cool, I don't need to drive the car." LOL.
Edit Also in Arizona... Something in the water down there?
There's a new-ish genre of Youtubers these days, Arizona home inspectors showing what a gigantic clusterfuck new house construction is there. I can't decide which is my favorite disaster: exterior walls that are just paper and stucco, or the gas leaks at literally every house. In AZ, the HOAs are the least of people's problems.
What a dystopian hell hole. My condolences to everyone having something like HOA in their lives. May you all experience a civilised and free country at some point.
HOAs seem like they should be illegal. Having a contract in perpetuity that is attached to the purchase of property seems like it shouldn't be allowed. So it is not only bound to the person who originally signed, but to whoever purchases the relevant property afterwards, and that gives other people rights over you that can be changed afterwards and are only limited by their conscience.
I basically don't think you should be able to create a government by using a contract.
HOAs are the direct result of racists trying to work around de-jure segregation being abolished, so yeah.