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[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That reminds me. I watched Charlie Wilson's War recently. I didn't know what it was before I watched it. I got a bit into the movie before I saw a scene with two characters walking down a hall having a fast important sounding conversation and I thought, "wait, is this a Sorkin movie?" Yes. It is.

It is about the US intervention in the Soviet-Afghan war. It portrays the Soviets as barbarians that crave violence and murdering children for no reason, like as bad as the IDF. And then at the end of the movie, the CIA guy (who is considered a good guy in the movie) is telling the congressman Charlie Wilson (who got funding for the whole operation to drive the Soviets out) that maybe things can be complicated even if you win and how it's important to make sure we fund schools and industry in Afghanistan because, as the CIA guy says, people need hope. Gee, I wonder if there was someone else that was interested in doing that?

The USSR had advisors in Afghanistan to assist a friendly Afghan government in doing exactly that kind of stuff. Afghanistan and the USSR had a friendly relationship for many decades because they had a shared interest in keeping the British from colonizing Afghanistan. The religious extremists were trying to overthrow the Afghan state and the USSR was assisting in stabilizing. So we helped extremists. Then we fucked off. We're the ones that stopped those schools and industry from being built up. So the movie ends with Charlie Wilson's funds suddenly drying up because the Soviet's left Afghanistan, but at least we drove the commies out, right?

And some of the "good" people in the movie are Christian zealots want to convert Afghanistan to Christianity. They think you can convert Muslims to Christianity, but you cannot convert communists to Christianity, so they have to stop the spread of communism by empowering Islamic fundamentalists. There's not much nuance portrayed here.

The main character, Charlie Wilson, is a democrat in Texas. He's basically a republican except he does drugs and sexually harasses women all day, so he is "very cool".

I did not think I could hate Sorkin more than I already did until I watched this movie.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That first one was Robert Fisk? Damn swing and a miss on that one.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago

Comic book joke. He's a Spiderman and Daredevil villain, who I couldn't quite remember the name of but I knew it was something Fisk. Turns out it's Wilson Fisk, so I guess not the same person.