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There is no safe amount of processed meat to eat, according to new research | CNN (edition.cnn.com)
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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This may be a new study, but it's confirming what was known already.

Of course, CNN is trying to dilute the message and claim some magical middle ground:

“The goal shouldn’t be perfection but rather a healthy and sensible dietary pattern that allows room for enjoyment,” Kuhnle said.

From the abstract:

We conservatively estimated that—relative to zero consumption—consuming processed meat (at 0.6–57 g d−1) was associated with at least an 11% average increase in type 2 diabetes risk and a 7% (at 0.78–55 g d−1) increase in colorectal cancer risk. SSB intake (at 1.5–390 g d−1) was associated with at least an 8% average increase in type 2 diabetes risk and a 2% (at 0–365 g d−1) increase in IHD risk. TFA consumption (at 0.25–2.56% of daily energy intake) was associated with at least a 3% average increase in IHD risk.

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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

“The goal shouldn’t be perfection but rather a healthy and sensible dietary pattern that allows room for enjoyment,” Kuhnle said.

Right. Because attempts at perfection typically fail. Especially when it comes to diet. Quick and drastic dietary changes often lead to relapses and rebounds - yo yo dieting is a thing, after all - while gradually changing food habits is more likely to result in long-lasting dietary and health improvements.

It's not about a "magical middle ground". It's about understanding how humans act.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

When you start with compromises like that, the failure is guaranteed, there is no "attempt".

Considering the role of food as pleasure, this fear of big changes can backfire because people are addicted to food. It's easier to succeed if you do a revolution in your kitchen instead of half-assed tiny changes that maintain "temptations". It's also much more satisfying to engage in something new, an adventure, and start to make progress in it (to accomplish things); the big change is its own reward, which helps to keep it going because you feel more agency, more capability.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

When you start with compromises like that, the failure is guaranteed, there is no "attempt".

That's like saying tapering off a drug addiction is a compromise compared to going cold turkey.

I agree that food is addictive. Habits we develop around food are some of the strongest habits we have. Which is why a lot of people make radical changes in their diet - think New Year's resolutions - and then give them up entirely because they find their new diet too hard and go back to their old comfortable habits.

If a "revolution in your kitchen" worked for you, good for you! Congratulations!

For other people, changing their dietary habits in a way that lasts a lifetime means building better habits through slow and gradual change.

Especially for people who aren't cooking and eating alone and have to take other people's preferences into account - that is, making changes is necessarily a compromise with the other people in their household. And it's much easier to get your household to agree on smaller, gradual dietary changes then a food revolution.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recently gave up beef, as that is by far the worst meat for climate and pollution. Might work down the list but I think that's the biggest single step I've taken diet wise.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Congratulations!

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As “little” as 1 hot dog a day… That sounds excessive even if you’re not vegan.

[–] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 days ago

I reckon most people don't know what processed meat is, or what part of their diet it constitutes. One hot dog isn't all that much.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, that's fubar. There's been time when I was so broke a 24 pck of ballpark beef franks were my only option.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's nutty that meat is so subsidized that that is such a cheap option. Never ceases to boggle me.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's gotten better since I got stamps. I've been able to get my son to try a bunch of food as well. I'm scared that they'll be cutting those soon, though.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol I'm doomed. I eat like 2 hot dogs a day, and that's just breakfast.

[–] auraithx@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

Try some granola