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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 121 points 9 months ago (3 children)

They're scared... He disrupts the status quo...

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So we turn it so far right it will end up left

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish horseshoe theory was real. We can go even farther right than this, to literal kingdoms. Countries we often describe as going "too far left" became more hierarchical.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The horseshoe is absolutely real. Social democracy (like the stuff that candidate proposes) is on the middle, and both sides go out into a corrupt authoritarian government where the elites own everything.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago

I'd say it's more of a fact that there is no single axis political spectrum, and communists are not "further to the left" from democratic socialists, but just more towards authoritarianism.

[–] Grail@aussie.zone -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] manny_stillwagon@mander.xyz 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is some real conspiracy theory thinking. This entire article boils down to "I have figured out this secret thing that nobody else, not even the former president or candidates of the Democratic party know about!" It's all a wild supposition with zero backing evidence, just this one person's shower thought being passed off as fact.

Please don't buy into this level of lizard-people nonsense. It's not helpful for anyone.

[–] Grail@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Well the former president of the united states doesn't know that Israel is bad either, so knowing something he doesn't know isn't very hard.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In a proper democracy shit like this would lead to people voting for a party with the same values as the mayor but without the infighting. Hell, perhaps the mayor would even jump ship themself. This pressure then forces the corrupt party to either fix themselves or vanish.

In Germany we got enough parties so they can completely tank for a while for doing stupid shit, then recover organically. The Greens did that, The Left just recovered, the Libertarians… hopefully never recover. Well, except for the conservatives/right-wing 'cause old as well as pissed off people do not properly think about it anymore (conservatices just lose because old people are dying). An inherent issue with democracy you're completely at the mercy of.

A 2-Party system simply can't properly work.

[–] quink@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

the Libertarians… hopefully never recover

A strong FDP hurts the CDU/CSU and even more importantly AfD disproportionately. That is a very good thing. If they have 5 to 10% in perpetuity that'll be a very good thing indeed. Any more than that though and they can fuck right off again, because not least of all the way the AfD slotted straight into where the FDP sat (but at least with some of a cordon sanitaire) is creeping me out like few other things.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

A strong FDP hurts us as badly as the CDU/CSU does. They're equally corrupt and opportunistic. Without the nazi threat they'd arguably even be worse given the conservatives at least can be convinced into neccessary investments by now, while the FDP would "privatize" their own child. However since both parties are very close to jumping into bed with nazis there really isn't a worse one right now.

It's important for all three of those parties to be weak if we want to tackle the big problems.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t quite know the extent of the Democratic establishment’s hatred for the left. Like, I knew it was decently sizable, but I didn’t fully grasp the evility. I thought they truly hated the right wing the most.

I’d love to talk to any intellectually honest person who saw it clearly beforehand, before Bernie I mean.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I don't have much to add other than what I've felt. Used to think it was hyperbole that the Democratic party was controlled opposition. Not so much anymore.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 9 months ago

But think about the economy, if trump can't crash the economy, how are billionaires gonna extract that sweet juice from society?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 15 points 9 months ago

They Don't Want What We Want (And They Don't Care) — Asking Alexandria.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's try voting for candidates who were born AFTER the Battle of the Bulge next time. None of the incumbents take their jobs seriously and they are way too comfortable in their phoney-baloney jobs.

We haven't had an actual progressive President since Jimmy Carter and that was fifty YEARS ago.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Carter was a conservative in most ways. He was the first neoliberal to win office and many of the policy agendas that he set both parties continue to pursue

https://time.com/6338234/jimmy-carter-conservative-president/

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yep, Noam Chomsky calls Nixon the last liberal president and he’s right. Carter was only at the beginning of the post New Deal reforms, so he wasn’t a full on demon like later traitors, but his record is clear.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know this is trying to be roundabout funny but just posting this here for posterity. Even this kind of humour attempts to validate Trump‘s election results which look dodgy to say the least and have never been properly verified.

If you’ve wondered why everything looks like a coup since he got in, perhaps it is because it is one.

https://lemmy.world/post/31401705

https://youtu.be/AaKFx5rxdmA

https://smartelections.us/

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fuck are you even talking about? Mamdani is the DNC candidate.