Kids don’t belong in public. They’re meant to be stored at home along with all your other property. You exist at home. You exist at work while your kids are in school. All other places require money which kids don’t have because they’re not people yet. This is how society works and therefore how society should be. It doesn’t exist within a broader context so please don’t check.

A grocery store is a miserable place to be a child. It’s full of objects scientifically designed to convince people to pick them up and take them, and the kid is not allowed to take them. Plus they have to sit on the hard steel wire basket seat for like 90 minutes, and are surrounded by obnoxiously loud noises.

Of course, nobody can afford a babysitter and nobody has an extended family, so the kids come with. Even if they are sick. ESPECIALLY if they are sick.

As a father of two, I can confirm that we train our kids specifically to act out in public. It's a lot of fun for everyone involved. I, for one, think it's delightful when my child melts down because the grocery store doesn't have an item that almost certainly exists only in their mind. It's just one of the joys of being a Bad Parent™

Am I the only one that enjoys seeing kids being feral little shits? Like, hell yeah buddy climb on that statue. Does no one have a sense of wonder anymore?

unironically.

saw a video of a scenic area in yunnan with tourists walking around and in each town they had basically a daycare place where you could let your kids play with local kids without them running off while you enjoy the town. and its designed in such a way that its trivial to drop your kids off and pick them up, and appeared to be a communal service. its also good because they get to socialize instead of being bored while the parents go do adult shit

Modern society hates kids. Whether its their noise, or kids at home (during COVID) disturbed them, to many places deploying high-pitched sound devices to drive away loitering teenagers.

Hell, COVID is a leading cause of death for kids, but fuck-em I wanna eat at Red Robin without a mask

I am convinced that the particular rampant nature of childism is at least partly because the atomization in our society ensures that people aren't around children at all.

I was once standing in line at a public library waiting to check out books. Dude at the front of the line was complaining to the librarian that there were kids reading books out loud in the Children's section. The librarian was doing her best not to roll her eyes at him.

Some people need to learn how to deal with mild inconvenience in public.

I think there’s like a ton of things going on when people say they hate noisy kids out in public. I think there are those for whom “noisy” is just shorthand for reckless, inappropriate, obnoxious behavior. Which, like, is annoying, and there are absolutely those parents who don’t teach their kids how to act respectfully in public (and often the kids are just imitating their parents who themselves never learned to act respectfully in public) and let them run wild. Or it’s teenagers who, like, it annoys me but also I did some shithead stuff when I was a teen so I can’t really talk.

But there are also definitely people who legitimately hate children unless they’re silent and only spoke when spoken to, that sort of thing. My aunt is like this, it’s shit.

Also there are some things that really annoy me, like babies crying in public, but just because it annoys me, what am I gonna do, ban babies in public? That’s stupid. I mean we do live in a society so you have to expect some minor annoyances when in public, and also most parents realize how disruptive and annoying that is and are usually pretty embarrassed and try hard to get their baby to calm down, so like, we’re on the same page pretty much. Not a big deal.

To be fair you don't have to be rich to teach your kids how to act while their out in public.

Unless they're baby age, then yeah babies gonna cry sometimes, it happens.

What the hell is wrong with bringing kids with to the grocery store? Hell here in South Africa some of the shopping carts even have full on baby car seats attached to them, and most of the larger carts/trolleys have a fold out kids seat. It's perfectly normal to bring your kids with. Do people really moan about that?

Are people really so atomised in the USA that seeing kids exist in the real world freaks them out?

Yeah I couldn’t imagine why people wouldn’t like going grocery shopping while someone’s kid is running around, screaming and pulling things off shelves. Must be because they hate poor people.

I like seeing kids in at the grocery store because its the only place I get to see kids anymore after my last job working with them was taken from me by an ableist boss so please, bring your kids to the grocery store.

It is very weird how is alienated from children. Most adults don’t interact with or even see children regularly unless they have children or work in child care. It’s really sad how such a fundamental part of existence is so cordoned off both for the children not being able to see and be part of their whole world and for the adults missing out on the sense of community and humanity that comes from dealing with both the good and the bad about children. The system behind this dehumanized structure is obviously capitalism. I’d encourage any comrades to let go of any unnecessary boundaries between adult and child spaces and embrace more humanity.

i mean, i like not having auditory sensitivities triggered by the worst sounds known to man and i absolutely support free childcare

i know i personally get anxious in crowded public spaces like grocery stores but its weird to blame parents for that, not everyone has childcare etc. they can rely on. obviously we should have more public childcare lol, and even public spaces for children to exist outside of school. its more understandable to me to complain about (poorly behaved or obviously uncomfortable) children in places you expect to spend more time in, like restaurants. recently my roommates went to a somewhat more restaurant for a date and got put in some back room full of some other party's children, and had an awful time. i think its because they are both bi and outwardly present as LGBT.