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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So we're finally getting high speed rail? anakin-padme-2

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Or invest in semiconductor manufacturing, and manufacturing in general?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh shit is America going to start building infrastructure

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well then it's not very much like China is it.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You stupid tankies have forgotten that my crystals have revealed China is fascist

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Only a Russian bot would question the crystals

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago

Americans doing American things americanally, in America

American media: damn those orientals

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

a bunch of asians????

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both push a muscular patriotism, are obsessed with manufacturing and hostile to immigrants. Both want a country where ethnic minorities are expected to bow to the dominant group

So many liberals keep calling China racist, but they never give any real evidence. This article just links to another article about how racist the MAGA movement is, yeah, I know Trumpers are racist, but you just said China was exactly the same and didn't back it up at all? They didn't even mention Uyghurs, surprisingly.

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

The article does this on more than one occasion. I think it’s a GPT article. The paragraph about how China supposedly “punishes neighbors after mere slights” includes an article as evidence that states trade with Japan resumed

but also a funny bit about how when reached for comment a Chinese office refused to comment over the phone and told them to fucking fax the questions. The fax was ignored.

[–] PostyourJaggaHogs@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

There is indeed much that America can learn from China. But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation. That’s what China did. It adopted aspects of the American way that would make it strong again, while sticking to its core system of Communist Party political domination and heavy state involvement in everything. And it has been spectacularly successful. Trump’s America, on the other hand, is beginning to seem as if it’s taking cues from China’s political model. That’s not who we are.<

I think this is my favourite part

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it worked well for China....anyways we dont actually want that.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

Of course not. Because to make it work, the US would need a Communist Party that isn't totally useless. And no one who lived through the Cold War is going to allow that to happen.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

is this implying that china has always been communist?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, the People's Republic of China is the only China

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

That’s not who we are.

soypoint-1 They said the thing! soypoint-2

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wasn’t even gonna bother posting to slop bc it is mostly the typical pablum but this paragraph is truly shocking. I can’t remember the last time one of these articles very nearly called China’s political model a good thing

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is so little introspection on the mater, too.

But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation.

Oh ok, so what does that mean?

That’s what China did. It adopted aspects of the American way that would make it strong again, while sticking to its core system of Communist Party political domination and heavy state involvement in everything. And it has been spectacularly successful.

Hmm, right I see. So China did market reforms but maintained its communist state, got it! So, Communist State + Market Reforms (aka do a little capitalism) = Great Success! But what about America?

Trump’s America, on the other hand, is beginning to seem as if it’s taking cues from China’s political model. That’s not who we are.

Oh. Ok, Which parts of China's political model, exactly? Hmm, it doesn't say. This could mean anything. Is it the "core system of [...] political domination and heavy state involvement in everything." but without the Communist Party? If only the author had come to some kind of conclusion about what exactly Trump is appropriating from the Chinese model. If Trump is doing the "bad" part of the model, what part of the Chinese model are we supposed to be doing, exactly? If doing a little "capitalism" for China = Good, are we supposed to be ... doing a little ... communism in America? What would that even look like, I wonder. Nothing comes to mind, I guess.

The United States can and should consider adopting some of what has worked for China, such as transitioning to renewables; revitalizing industrial policy; supporting science, research and education; reinvesting in infrastructure, housing and safe cities; and above all, having a sense of collective purpose that leads to national strength.

Instead, Mr. Trump’s administration is undermining or slashing funding for critical things such as public safety, infrastructure, education, scientific research, clean energy and semiconductor manufacturing, while fanning political divisions.

Oh, I see, this is what we should be doing. That seems obvious, right? But why can we never actually seem to get there? What is it, exactly, that makes China so on task, so focused, and so driven to meet these goals?

It’s natural for Americans who want a better future to look, albeit grudgingly, at what China has achieved. To be sure, leaders in Beijing don’t have a messy democracy to get in the way of their plans, but that’s hardly the only reason for China’s success. It came also from strategic foresight, investing in the future, a sense of national focus and unity — not division — that comes from the top and millions of individuals working hard to build the country up. China followed America’s lead, but it stuck to its own systems and stayed focused on meeting the basic needs of its population.

Is it really "millions of individuals", that make all these dreams a reality in China? What can the author tell us about Chinas "own systems" which it "stuck to"? How does a Country like China build "a sense of national focus and unity", which of its systems ensures this unity? How does its systems handle division? What are these systems exactly? Come on, author, you've been in China since 2008. You can't elaborate on any of these things?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago
But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation.

Oh ok, so what does that mean?

genocidal imperialists?

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[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

America: dictatorship of the bourgeoisie does dictatorship of the bourgeoisie things

Outraged liberals so close to getting it: "What are we, a bunch of COMMIES!?"

I wish y'all were, buddy. If only.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 2 weeks ago
[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

WHERE'S THE HIGH SPEED RAIL, UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, AND $5 STREET FOOD!?!?!

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No universal healthcare in China I'm afraid. The street food is significantly cheaper than 5 dollars though. Try between 1 and 2 dollars

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

What is the healthcare in China like? It may not be true universal healthcare, but surely it's nothing like the "die of poverty from crippling medical debt before the terminal cancer kills you" style of US healthcare?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's way closer than it should be, considering that it used to be universal.

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

deeper-sadness Guess I need to read up on what happened.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm not really sure. But I know it's orders of magnitude cheaper than the US system. You won't go bankrupt from an ambulance ride

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have universal public option for insurance to cover the bases. People who can afford it also get supplementary private insurance. This is more or less same as Australia or Germany. The only difference is that being a developing country with large population the basic public option is not as good.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah right. Is that opt in or is it something you get with your social security/national insurance card equivalent

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just one small problem crackers: Chinese people are actually native to China...

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

At this point this needs to the site's permanent tagline

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

amerikkka doing amerikkkan things amerikkkanly

How could China do this?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most American president does extremely American things:

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Corruption: Russia because the US and the West helped concentrate wealth and power among oligarchs.

Economic policy : Russia in the 1990s, whose policy was dictated by US and the West.

US is getting a taste of what it did to other countries.

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[–] SweatySteven@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The amerikkkan way is to use inconsistent formatting in documentation. Colons? Equal signs? Periods? Fuck you. I'll raise my M16 and use a god damn comma.

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

ignoring English class was (not sure if anyone cares enough anymore) basically presented in American media as a virtue. combine that with 24/7 access to computer and here we are.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are Americans going to learn to eat vegetables?

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

frothingfash "We cannot abide parity of any sort with the mysterious Celestial Middle Kingdom of the Far East Chinesian Orient"

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