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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention, AI itself is a lot of hot air

And then you add in all the gaseous emissions from the media about it…

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If MS is running a nuclear plant…I mean it’s pretty obvious.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Look at that silly Tron-wannabe lighting.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not that complicated. If you buy an old server and put ~1500 GB of ram into it, you can run full deepseek on it, comparable to ChatGPT. It's slow though, like a few words per second. That would be less than 1000 watts of power, only for when you actually use it. That is about 5 square meters of solar panels. Or if we finally make wind power through kites mature it would be about a 2 square meter kite and a winch. Plus some batteries that can be infinitely recycled. With hardware advances hopefully we'll see cheaper and more sustainable ways of running AI.

We can generate a near infinite amount of power in sustainable ways, the problem at what times, and how inefficient capitalism is in managing resources.

The question seems to be a drive to regulate access to AI, similar to the "muh copyright" talking points. AI is a resources that ideally they want to monopolize, and regulations that limit who can use it are the standard way of doing that. You can't electrify your own car because of regulations. Thank of the children! So I suspect there is a kind of struggle going on who gets to reap the rewards of using and commercializing AI. I bet it will end up somehow impossible to run your own AI models at home because if IP or energy laws.

How much energy do gaming PC use? How much energy do playstation and consoles use? How much energy does online gaming use? Social media? Asking this question specifically about AI is suspect.