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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can Iran realistically put together low yield bombs using their 60% enriched uranium stock?

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

A woman tried to call her mom in Iran. A robotic voice answered the phone

It's a very strange and disturbing situation. I think it's a very oddly written article because it jumps around so much. In the snippets - I moved sentences around.


SnippetsIt’s not clear who is behind this — or what the goal is. [...] Five experts with whom the AP shared recordings said it could be low-tech artificial intelligence, a chatbot or a pre-recorded message to which calls from abroad were diverted. [...] Most of the voices speak in English, though at least one spoke Farsi. If the caller tries to talk to it, the voice just continues with its message.

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When Ellie, a British-Iranian living in the United Kingdom, tried to call her mother in Tehran, a robotic female voice answered instead. “Alo? Alo?” the voice said, then asked in English: “Who is calling?” A few seconds passed. “I can’t heard you,” the voice continued, its English imperfect. “Who you want to speak with? I’m Alyssia. Do you remember me? I think I don’t know who are you.”

Ellie, 44, is one of nine Iranians living abroad — including in the U.K and U.S. — who said they have gotten strange, robotic voices when they attempted to call their loved ones in Iran since Israel launched airstrikes on the country a week ago. [...] “I don’t know why they’re doing this,” said Ellie, whose mother is diabetic, low on insulin and trapped on the outskirts of Tehran. She wants her mother to evacuate the city but cannot communicate that to her.

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Ellie is one of a lucky few who found a way to reach relatives since the blackout. She knows someone who lives on the Iran-Turkey border and has two phones — one with a Turkish SIM card and one with an Iranian SIM. He calls Ellie’s mother with the Iranian phone — since people inside the country are still able to call one another — and presses it to the Turkish phone, where Ellie’s on the line. The two are able to speak.

“The last time we spoke to her, we told her about the AI voice that is answering all her calls,” said Ellie. “She was shocked. She said her phone hasn’t rung at all.”

[...]

A 30-year-old women living in New York, who heard the same message Ellie did, called it “psychological warfare.” “Calling your mom and expecting to hear her voice and hearing an AI voice is one of the most scary things I’ve ever experienced,” she said. “I can feel it in my body.”

And the messages can be bizarre. One woman living in the U.K. desperately called her mom and instead got a voice offering platitudes. “Thank you for taking the time to listen,” it said, in a recording that she shared with the AP. “Today, I’d like to share some thoughts with you and share a few things that might resonate in our daily lives. Life is full of unexpected surprises, and these surprises can sometimes bring joy while at other times they challenge us.”

[...]

M., a woman in the U.K., has been trying to reach her mother-in-law, who is immobile and lives in Tehran’s northeast, which has been pummeled by Israeli bombardment throughout the week. When she last spoke to her family in Iran, they were mulling whether she should evacuate from the city. Then the blackout was imposed, and they lost contact. Since then she has heard through a relative that the woman was in the ICU with respiratory problems.

When she calls, she gets the same bizarre message as the woman in the U.K., a lengthy mantra. “Close your eyes and picture yourself in a place that brings you peace and happiness,” it says. “Maybe you are walking through a serene forest, listening to the rustle of leaves and birds chirping. Or you’re by the seashore, hearing the calming sound of waves crashing on the sand.”

The only feeling the message does instill in her, she said, is “helplessness.”

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 65 points 2 days ago

The supposed anti-interventionists like Bannon are already teasing some fun times ahead this weekend. Everything they say is completely fake, as expected. As soon an actual intervention is on the table, they all become pro-interventionists. And all the anti-Trump Democrats are like "Trump's tweets are impolite, but he should absolutely kill some Arabs & Persians!"

[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] iie@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago (11 children)

What happens after Fordow is penetrated? I assume the US can blast down to it with enough B2 sorties and Iran can’t really stop them. How would this affect Iran’s nuclear program?

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So that's the big joke, right? Even if the Americans totally destroy Fordow, 100% destruction, (which is itself doubtful, Fordow is probably ~100m down under hard rock, the bunker buster the B2 can carry is rated to 60m of reinforced concrete, getting multiple hits in exactly the same point is rather difficult, etc etc), Iran's nuclear program is set back maybe a year? Maybe? You can't kill knowledge, Iran has been operating reactors for decades at this point, knowledge of nuclear science is well dispersed and it's not that hard to build more reactors. Iran can enrich uranium up to the purity for a nuclear weapon with or without Fordow quite easily, the "hard" part comes with the delivery mechanism which they haven't really fiddled around with due to Khamenei's fatwa on nuclear weapons development. Destroy Fordow is much more about PR and claiming the US/Israel "got a win" so they can get an offramp to this miscalculation rather than meaningfully degrading Iran's ability to get nuclear weapons.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

B-2 bombers moving to Guam amid Middle East tensions, US officials say

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One official said no forward orders had been given yet to move the bombers beyond Guam.

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