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[–] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because no one is illegal on stolen land.

I get the message, but it really makes it sound like you’re allowed to steal land and get away with it. Which I guess you can get away with it if you’re white taking the land from someone darker than you.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Which I guess you can get away with it if you’re white taking the land from someone darker than you

Nah. It’s whoever has the biggest weapons gets away with it. If you’ve got a larger country with a bigger stick standing behind you, you can attack anyone you want and no one says shit.

[–] gaja@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It also just sounds like stupid lib shit. No one is illegal–period. Nothing more needs to be said. If the land wasn't stolen, would it be okay to start labeling people illegal?

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No one is illegal–period.

Which is, of course, a refutation of a ridiculous straw man, because no one is actually labeling the people themselves illegal, when referring to them having immigrated illegally. It's a deliberate cringy misinterpretation of simple shorthand.

If you call someone a thief, are you saying that they are theft, or are you saying that they stole?

[–] fu@libranet.de 5 points 1 day ago

@damnedfurry @gaja calling someone an illegal immigrant is specifically meant to dehumanize them. Right wingers don't do that with other offenses. We don't have illegal gun owners, illegal tax payers, illegal drivers, illegal hunters, heck they don't even call abortionists illegal doctors.

[–] groet@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right wing rethoric absolutely labels the persons themselves as the problem and not what they have done. Its is about "illegals" and not about "people who immigrated illegally"

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its is about “illegals” and not about “people who immigrated illegally”

???

"An illegal" is literally slang for "a person who immigrated illegally". They are expressing the same exact thing.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, the same exact thing ... as the other person is saying is bad and wrong. They're calling people illegal.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago

Mike Huackabee recently said, that Palestinians should just have some land somewhere in another "muslim country" implying they all would be the same anyways and have so much landmass and Israel has so little.

Well, by that logic the US Americans should get the fuck out of America, since they have so much space in Europe and give the land back to its legitimate people.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Hey! A lot of land wasn't stolen! .. first hand. Most of the country's land area was purchased from other countries ... that stole it first.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Malbec's the best, dude.

I wasn't much of a wine drinker when I was younger. Then, I switched to whites—they're usually sweeter, which is an easy transition into the wine world.

Malbec's the real deal red wine. It's super dry, no sugary sweetness, and goes with everything. If you're gonna drink wine, go for Malbec; you won't regret it.

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I'm Canadian and I had a Malbec phase in the past. :')

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

They deported native americans, maga is mad!

[–] Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Ice wine slaps tho

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you haven’t tried ice wine then you’re missing out!

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fu@libranet.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Me ordering cold, solidified water at the restaurant:

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hey, those wines have names!