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From time to time, important news gets overshadowed by other headlines, even though it could have a profound impact on our (online) world. To most of us, few things are more bothersome than the dreaded cookie banners. On countless websites, you’re confronted with a pesky pop-up urging you to agree to something. You end up consenting without really knowing what it is. If you try to figure out what’s going on, you quickly get lost among the often hundreds of “partners” who want access to your personal data. Even if you do give your consent, it’s questionable whether you truly understand what you’re agreeing to.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago

This needs to be worldwide.

And... PURGE ALL USER INFORMATION!

I don't care for those 'but what about those people planning/planned crimes?' The one thing I learned from the current Trump administration is that the information is so fucking ripe for abuse AND they don't even catch enough actual crooks that letting a few legit bad people slip through isn't going to bother me.

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

wow i didn't know belgium was based. I guess i was wrong when i thought they peaked with french fries

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 4 points 22 hours ago

Also first in Europe to ban lootboxes as gambling, iirc.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk, their waffles and chocolates are pretty good too.

[–] bradboimler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Belgian craft beers are top notch.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Delirium Tremens at -12 Celsius 😍

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

still pretty tough to beat the fries. I'd say this is a close second.

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[–] Leesi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Cookies are old news. What about browser fingerprinting which can track you across websites? https://www.amiunique.org/

There's basically no easy way to safeguard against it without making browsing nearly unusable.

[–] dean@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

GDPR is regarding personal data, which includes cookies as well as any other fingerprinting. Even though browser fingerprinting does not persist any data on a device itself, explicit consent must be gathered before it's used for processing (i.e. tracking) purposes.

[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yes! You are unique among the 3874720 fingerprints in our entire dataset.

If the website says that I’m unique in green font, it’s actually bad and should be red, isn’t it ?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Happened to me, too. Fuck!

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But why unusable, why does a browser have to leak language, window size, time, extensions? Can't those be spoofed?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of those things are also required to render a webpage correctly.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But isn't most of that client-side processing? Can't I request a vanilla generic page and once it is in my browser to process it to shape it into the window size and extensions I want? Even if it is an adblocker: serve me the ad, I'll block it internally. But I suppose that for dynamic pages with js requests this would become hard to do.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah it's Javascript that's the issue that can just take all this data in the client and send it wherever. And that's exactly what's happening.

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oh fuck i'm unique on every browser 😨

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You will have your tor-connected 1024x768 anonymous window and you will like it!

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

tor-connected

You are unique!

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[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago

Tor Browser in normal mode is quite usable though, you just can't use extensions and you need to start a new session whenever you use other websites so they can't track you via cookies. Mullvad Browser is quite similar too.

[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Even if idiots with enough money stay unleashed this is great news. One step at a time. Thanks for sharing!

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is a win for everyone in Europe, and possibly beyond. [Emphasis mine.] Companies may no longer secretly track your behavior based on “consent” given under pressure. Hopefully, this will not only put an end to these dubious practices, but also to those pesky cookie banners.

But we’re not there yet. Regulators have ruled the system illegal, and the court’s ruling has now confirmed it. Still, the companies making billions from this model won’t stop on their own. That’s why European regulators must now truly step up: enforce the law and make sure these companies actually comply.

Regulators try not to get compromised by lobbyists when billions of dollars are at stake.

I sincerely wish you good luck.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Big corpos aren't going to comply and pay a small fine instead. https://proton.me/tech-fines-tracker

We need the corporate death penalty.

Or at least take 100% of their revenue (not profit) until they comply.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Love the sentiment, curious about implementation.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 72 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Simple:

  1. make "no" the default answer when asking
  2. massive fine, in the order of 50% of total revenue, the first time you get caught to be paid before the eventual appeal, which if lost raise the fine by 50%. If not paid in 90 days, the CEO goes to jail until it is paid. From now on for 2 years the company must show that it follow the law.
  3. mandatory jail time for the CEO the second time you get caught with no option for parole or any other alternative sentence like a fine or whatever.

Or any other solution where the eventual punishment cannot be considered just business cost.

I know, almost impossible... :-(

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  1. Please. Need this. Thanks
  2. Would this work in any court of law?
  3. I’ve learned recently while the CEO has a lot of control, they are not ultimately in control. The executive board is. Everyone on the board should be jailed and barred from starting a business for 25 years or the length of the sentence, whichever is greater
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[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  1. 'No' is already the default, that's why you get the banners, to trick you into opting in. There are a couple of filters that you can enable in uBlock Origin to get rid of (most of) the banners.
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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a plan from someone that has never been lobbied by the advertising industry. Many billions are at stake here. Not many governments can withstand the kind of lobby power this money can buy.

Would be great to see more crackdown on this though. Random companies are collecting tons of data on people via default opt-in methods.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The crazy thing (to me) is that governments can still get all of those billions without the undue influence. Instead of bribes, they can charge fines, taxes, fees for regulatory inspections, etc. When you write the law, you don't have to just shrug when things are obviously broken.

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Random side note: how is Belgium to live in and what would it look like to live there right now? Asking for a friend.

Edit: thanks for al the information. I'll move onto learning more about the country and it's people's history.

[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We have better access to healthcare than France, generally good work-life balance, access to education is cheap (1000 eur for one year at a good university ). People are welcoming but also reserved. It’s raining a lot and we spend a lot of time complaining about it.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

It’s raining a lot and we spend a lot of time complaining about it.

Hey, that's our brand!

Sincerely, a dude from Hamburg

[–] voidspace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I have friends who live there, and they report the same. They visited us for the first time here in London recently, and were quite shocked by the stark differences.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

how is Belgium to live in and what would it look like to live there right now?

It's literally between France, Germany and the Netherlands, I mean geographically yes but roughly culturally too. Arguably Brussels is a mix of all that and other cities again match where they are.

So... it's a Western European country with good quality of life ~~despite~~ thanks to having one of the very highest taxes rate. You don't have to be a socialist to be here but if you want to become a rich entrepreneur it's going to be challenging.

Source : immigrated there from France ~10 years ago.

Edit: s/despite/thanks to/

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

it's a Western European country with good quality of life despite having one of the very highest taxes rate.

"Despite"? Try, "because"

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[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

but but but how are the corporations supposed to make money off of our data if they can't harvest it? Think of the poor corporations!!

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Yeah I’ll need the detailed judgment of this one before considering it a massive win. Consent has always been something that needs to be done willingly and freely. The issue is forcing the whole industry to give a shit about the principle. Maybe IAB will have to shift its practices but I haven’t had any panicked calls yet so I assume this isn’t systemic.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

And then the EU introduces the worst spying law in history.

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