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[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So...how close are we to that point where other countries open their doors to us under asylum laws? I mean, Trump's siccing the military on people and it's not even 6 months into his term yet.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There exist countries that have already offered safe haven/asylum to US'ians... Especially to LGBTQ.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Links, please? I haven't seen anything suggesting that, yet.

I'm probably OK. I'm straight. I'm White. Though I am agnostic and don't buy the State Religion behind Project 2025.

My wife, however, is Black, Bisexual, and Pagan, four strikes, and now I'm a race traitor for having married her, so there's my strike.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just to point out it doesn't matter how white you are if you say something they don't agree with.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or do something they don't agree with. Like marrying a Black bisexual pagan woman.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Or even look at them wrong.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, take a good look at Luigi and how hard they're trying to blame him. You don't get much more white than Italian. Maybe Scottish, but it's close.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I actually think it is very possible to be more white than Italians—they weren’t even considered white in America until the last 100 years or so.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, this. I'm quite sure if I ventured back to the place where I grew up I could find more than a few people that would consider Italians as non-white.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Which is kind of funny when I think about the casual racism that was thrown around by my Italian immigrant Grandmother when I was a kid.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You forgot about the discrimination of Italians in America.

Just like US was no fan of Irish immigrants either.

Really just pick a country and at some point the US has probably discriminated against people from there.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ask a white supremacist if Italians are white

There is a lot of anti-Italian sentiment. Especially South Italian, where folks start looking much darker in skin

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

My google-fu hasn't up to this point. In fact, I get lots of results saying that Americans are not welcome as asylum seekers in my googling. Your single link only shows places that take American immigrants, not places welcoming American refugees. In fact, New Zealand is suffering from a Conservative-inflicted recession that is making things difficult for immigrants and natives alike, and Australia has some serious restrictions on immigrants (a close friend of mine did that route and barely made the cut). And Canada? Despite a victory for the Liberal Party and 'elbows up' regarding American rhetoric, they still have lots of people angry about how immigration has been handled.

If you actually have links to help get victimised people out of the USA, maybe instead of 'why don't u google it urself', maybe post those links. That's FAR more helpful than the whole 'go do it urself!' response. :)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From a non- paywall article about Hannah Kreager:

Her pending claim for protection in the Great White North could be a landmark case, the American believes.

'I'm here in Canada with a terrific lawyer taking up my unprecedented case: seeking asylum from the United States of America on the grounds of violation of human rights,' she posted online.

'My case is a precedent-setting one, and if successful, could make asylum for trans people in the U.S. possible.'

I hope she's successful. The Safe Third Country agreement needs to be ended. Until that time, the path to claiming refuge status from the US will be extremely expensive and onerous and not likely to be successful. The canadian government needs to be called out on their hypocrisy and refusal to 'rock the boat' by ending it.

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[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for these. They don't make it clear that Canada is a valid destination for LGBTQ+ folks to seek asylum from, but they do indicate that there is discussion in Canada. Have to see how the referenced cases go, though.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Just go North. That was key in slavery and Vietnam. And today.

I think there is a gross overestimation of the support that is available. I've seen a lot of bad articles copying and pasting different parts of immigration policy and programs but without understanding how it works as a whole.

Like, Canada has a website about helping LGBTQI+ refugees ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html ) and it includes partnerships with groups like Rainbow Railroad who can refer people in need of resettlement to the refugee process.

But if you only look at that and fail to consider the safe third country agreement, you're giving false hope.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Taking in refugees is not very popular at the moment.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Just like the 1930s. By the time countries will open their doors to the oppressed in the USA, we'll be rolling our own ovens here.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Bullshit. It is popular.

But the two sects of the big one party are both anti people

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happening already. US trans people are coming to Canada and applying for asylum now.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How lengthy is the process?

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know we've been crossing a lot of lines over the last several months but this seems like a big one.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They ALL seem like big ones, but then we get over and shift that much further into authoritarianism.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the Marines want to uphold their oaths, they'll start fighting the cops.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't met a marine that doesn't support Trump, soooo...

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But Smedly Butler was pretty clear and they worship him

This is key to swaying Marines.

The republican brain knows no bounds when it comes to dissonance.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 26 points 1 year ago

Fascism at work.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any marine who follows this order is a traitor to the United States.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Guess 700 Marines are about to be traitors to the United States.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just leave a box of red crayons on the ground and you'll be safe.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

The saying “once in a lifetime events” needs to be changed to “well 5mins ago”

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The mass shootings will begin.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Coming soon to a city near you.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

We are so very fucked

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do this without controversy and yet when I, Antifa President John Antifa, deploy the HRT Super Soldiers, suddenly antifa is the villains?

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