"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
Summary:
I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.
I didn't go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.
One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.
So your telling me that if I go downvote a bunch of stuff in one AI slop community someone will ban me from all of them for me and save me the work of blocking them all?
I complained about slop in the other thread and got banned from at least two, hopefully more. Only found out when I went to block a couple of communities someone linked.
I think I would be willing to pay for a lemmy experience that replaces ai slop posts with ads. Ads with autoplaying videos and sound. Ads that when accidentally clicked open the app store to some obvious malware. Anything that doesn't kill one rainforest tree per post.
LLM generated polandball comic
WHY
i literally just made one in like 5 minutes, and i didn't even need a good or interesting idea. i put in the minimum amount of effort. they are literally balls with no mouth, nose or any other detail, just a circle, a flag and two eyes
AI bros aren't logical, they'd rather put in no effort to have a machine barf out crap then claim they made it.
Thing is, as someone who has fooled around with locally hosted image gen, it's actually sometimes a whole fucking lot of work to try and bend prompts to get the stupid algorithm to spit out what you want. They'd rather put in a shit tonne of effort for an objectively worse result.
That is also my thought. If you want to make AI generated content, which is going to cost the environment a ton (40 phone charges per prompt, people) and do prompt after prompt after prompt - then WHY would you waste all that time and pollution on a fucking gag comic that you could draw yourself in five minutes?
To me, that is peak retardation when it comes to AI fanboys. At least use that time and pollution on something worthwhile.
I noticed just yesterday or maybe two days ago that MysticMuchroom had banned me from !stable_diffusion_witches@lemmy.dbzer0.com calling me an "Anti-AI Troll" in the modlog. I'm fairly certain I've had exactly zero interaction with the stable_diffusion_witches before or since.
My guess is that ze had previously banned me from !stable_diffusion_mycology@lemmy.dbzer0.com for downvoting too much and preemptively also banned me from stable_diffusion_witches when ze first created it.
Then ze had the gall to come to this thread to troll and file reports to me (I'm a mod here on !fuck_ai@lemmy.world) about people calling zir out for basically exactly that behavior.
Oy.
I think the need for more explicit rules in the sidebar is getting more crucial. I might see about trying to make that happen soon. I'll probably start by DMing @VerbFlow@lemmy.world and see where it goes from there.
Edit: And now I think MysticMushroom is evading zir ban. Either that or someone else is impersonating them.
I believe that db0 is here to brigade this thread with downvotes, as well. In the past they have done the same with the admins themselves participating and inciting it even, leveraging plausible deniability to do so but it's very obvious to those willing to entertain the idea.
Wait, are you telling me that people who use AI nowadays are completely deranged?
astronaut_pointing_gun.jxl
I was also in that thread and have blocked the whole instance. Literally the first thing I did when I made my account was block the AI images communities, because I don't want it in my feed. The .dbzer0 mods have now made it clear that every comm on their instance is an AI image comm, and if you talk about it or complain, you can expect your comments to be removed in the same way they would be if you went into a specifically AI image community. Like, not only is there no requirement or expectation that it be tagged as AI, but you can't even expect to see it mentioned in the comments because that'll be censored. They're really trying to shove it down everyone's throats and ban anyone who complains.
"Being anti-AI is intrinsically reactionary" is a direct quote from Unruffled. None of them are at all open to hearing criticism or discussion about it.
I crossposted this thread to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and here was db0's response
Not surprising whatsoever. Someone should really make an alternative to that community that isn't on dbzer0. YPTB is biased as fuck and they're not above accusing people like us of sowing drama just because they don't like criticism of their slop.
AI Evangelists are cringe people.
I saw some freak at a prostest passing out flyers saying AI was sentient and we need to give it legal rights.
These people are delusional, incapable of living in reality.
That's what happens when you let AI talk for you, draw for you, speak for you, and even think for you.
Modern "AI" doesn't think ... but then neither are the goons promoting it so rabidly, so...
Exactly my point
Lol it just keeps on getting better, dbzer0's admins apparently think that banning anyone who downvotes in your community to create an echochamber is somehow a good thing
This is the real problem: they are all jumping to the assumption that MysticMushroom banned TheBat because they downvoted in a "genAI community", except /c/leftymemes is NOT explicitly a genAI community. Everyone in the thread there on yepowertrippinbastards that supports the mod abuse are all acting under that assumption and keep perpetuating that, yet no one has bothered to check and Mushroom seems to be content with not correcting that.
You can see the proof that the comments they downvoted was on leftymemes:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19277683
[Source]
And here are the other db0 downvotes from that time period:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46245854
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19270000
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19269940
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19267800
I also see that there are a lot of weirdly disproportionate downvotes in this thread. I suspect the db0 people are here brigading/vote manipulating, which is something they decry on their own platform. They are such hypocrites.
I can't even imagine the mental gymnastics required to be both "pro-labor" and "pro-AI". I mean, yeah I'm all about workers rights...but imagine how much money my boss could make if he just replaced us all with robots?
So in an ideal world we would have ai/robots doing labour jobs, while humans are free to do what they want and enjoy life without the wage slavery to survive...
But we do not live in such a world and instead, ai is doing all the creative fun bits and humans are loosing their jobs and not getting any support to live... 🙃
Yeah the mental gymnastics of some of these ai moderators is hitting Reddit level of cringe. Downvoted and blocked some ai slop communities that came across my timeline and had one butthurt genius block me from a few places they mod.
Ai bros are just the worst insecure shitheads out there. Absolutely worse than crypto bros ever were.
I blocked the whole community after seeing bullshit like "no rule against AI means you must imply that any criticism of AI is against the rules"
I have been debating whether or not to block the entire db0 instance because of its pro-AI stance. It's weird to me that a self-proclaimed anarchist instance is so pro-GenAI garbage. Even the reasoning of being pro-AI because it's anti-copyright is dumb as fuck.
Everyone should block that corporate bootlicking pro-AI shithole, they're bad news and nothing good can ever come of them.
Yeah they see themselves as “seizing the means of production” but they aren’t doing shit. You aren’t a freedom fighter using Ai. You are just another tool in their machine and you are giving them more power.