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I run a small VPS host and rely on PayPal for payments, mainly because (a) most VPS customers pay that way if you aren't AWS or GoDaddy and (b) very good fraud protection. My prior venture had quite a bit of chargebacks from Stripe so it went PP-only also.

My dad told me I should "reduce the processing fees" and inaccurately cited that ChatGPT told him PayPal has 5% fees when it really has 3-3.5% fees (plus 49 cents). Yet he insisted 5% was the charge.

Yes, PayPal sucks but ChatGPT sucks even more. When I was a child he said Toontown would ruin my brain, yet LLMs are ruining his even more.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 139 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Every boomer seems like that: "You shouldn't trust anyone without fact-checking."

30 years later: "Let's trust every shoe salesman and ChatGPT, they are my new friends."

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 73 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Is that not what ChatGPT was made for? Industrial scale misinformation?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think the intention was to legalize plagiarism under the guise of helping humanity. Only if corporations do it of course.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

and to make us plebes even dumber.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, if he cited inaccurate information it was because he didn't check it. Same as if he cited something he heard from a guy on the bus.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think there's some shared blame. Chatgpt existing and marketing itself as useful makes people believe it. If you have to double check everything it says, what is the point of using it in the first place? This isn't unsolicited information from someone you're chatting to that came up naturally and should be checked, this is something you have to specifically choose to use.

[–] coriza@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And Google throw it in your face and you have to be very careful about. For years when you Google something the first thing would be a snipped from a website, so if you Google "PayPal fee" it would show a snipped from a website mentioning a PayPal fee, but now the result in the same place and in the same style is a LLM response.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it's definitely a good reason to just ditch google altogether now.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

LLMs are undoubtedly impressive tech that will get better with time. But to anyone singing their praises too emphatically I say ask it something on a topic you are an expert on; you’ll quickly see how fallible they currently are.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Problem is a lack of expertise with most people. Most people I interact with are generally oblivious to most things, including their careers lol.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

Tbh if they game get them to ask it about that, it fails spectacularly badly, even worse than in general. TV shows and movies it's a bit better on, probably because there are so many episode summaries and reviews online, but if you talk to it long enough and ask varied and specific enough information it'll fail there too.

They may not be an expert at something, but if they have a specific interest or hobby that'll probably work.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

He didn't cite wrong information (only) because of ChatGPT, but because he lacks the instinct (or training, or knowledge) to verify the first result he either sees or likes.

If he had googled for the information and his first click was an article that was giving him the same false information, he would've probably insisted just the same.

LLMs sure make this worse, as much more information coming out of them is wrong, but the root cause is the same it's been before their prevalence. Coincidentally it's the reason misinformation campaigns work so well and are so easy.

Edit: removed distraction

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

Chatgpt is unfortunately fully capable of generating false information without ever being given it.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If he had googled for the information and his first click was an article that was giving him the same false information, he would've probably insisted just the same.

If you're looking up content written by humans and published to the internet in an article, it is far less likely to be wrong.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask it if PayPal has a 5% fee? Sounds like he might have been arguing about it and tried to fact check himself and chafgpt told him what he wanted to hear maybe?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does everyone have to make up stories about AI? AI is bad enough without bullshit stories.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago
[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Is you dad my boss?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is happening to me more and more often. It's infuriating.

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