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We have a LONG wait until DW returns to TV! So tell me, what are YOUR unpopular DW opinions!?

For me, I LOVED the first series of both 12 and 13. They were trying new things and I really appreciated the freshness. It felt more creatively honest to me than the follow-up series.

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[–] Emsquared@feddit.uk 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know what? I enjoyed the Capaldi era and would've been well happy if he had continued for another 13 episodes. Bill was a great companion too with terrific acting chops.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Hell yes! LOVE Capaldi! And you're right, Bill WAS great!

[–] Yaenntz@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

I like to dream of season 9 with Bill as companion.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Rose Tyler is neither the greatest companion of all time nor a blight upon the land.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who is your favorite companion? I'm in the "Rose is my favorite" camp, but I could make an exception for Amy Pond.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He was the most supportive dad, omg 😭

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Clara is my #3, but I'm not a Donna fan. I don't hate Donna, but I'm not a fan and think she's just too annoying and doesn't complement the adventures well. I did like her return in the recent specials, but that was largely because David Tennant was also there.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Number 1 is Rose, number 2 is Amy Pond.

Rory is probably 4. Martha next maybe? Or Bill. Ruby and Belinda were also great, so maybe they're 5 & 6 first? It gets difficult the further down we go.

[–] thisisdee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My husband is on the “Donna is annoying” camp. Which is totally understandable especially since she basically screamed every line during her first appearance. He softened up on her later on cos she’s funny but still thinks she’s mostly annoying

I think Martha is underrated. She’s a doctor, actually brings knowledge/expertise, and still has the human compassion aspect that Rose and Donna rely on. Her only flaw is that she had a crush on the Doctor and he didn’t reciprocate.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Martha is definitely underrated. It also doesn't help that her story is relatively short. Most (primary) companions get 2-3 series, I think she got 1/2 to 1 series, maybe a little more with a cameo (it's been a little while).

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'm with the Ponds. All of them.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago

I respect this, and I think I agree.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

13 was a good doctor. I liked that they tackled issues like segregation in the US and Partition. I liked The Fam, including The Doctor and Yas being attracted to each other and Graham and Ryan’s relationship.

I didn’t care for Flux or Legend of the Sea Devils, but everything else was fine. I really liked Sacha Dhawan’s Master and The Timeless Children (We need more Fugitive Doctor.) The only part of that I didn’t like was The Master randomly destroying Gallifrey again.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Agreed, loved the issues they covered.

Sadly, though, Sacha didn't work for me. I think it's because I couldn't see the connective flow from Missy to him.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I thought Sacha's Master-constantly-suppressing-urge-to-violence was interesting, but I wanted a lot more Missy. I guess the actors all like to leave on a high note?

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His Rasputin dance alone sold me on him. Sacha is probably #3 for me, after Michelle Gomez and Roger Delgado.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 3 points 1 week ago

lol i feel that. Rasputin Sacha IS my favorite Sacha.

[–] Jtskywalker@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Same. I liked the idea of sea devils but it felt like a 2 episode plot cut down to one

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The downward slide for New Who started under Matt Smith.

[–] Yaenntz@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, in retrospective this is probably true. Season 5 was fantastic, 6 still pretty solid, but season 7? Phew. It somewhat showed that Steven could not handle the main show, the 50th anniversary festivities and his other show Sherlock all at once.

[–] thisisdee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I agree. It was a slog for me to finish his run. Capaldi was exciting in the beginning, had some great episodes, but still a bit rough. I think I just personally don’t like Moffat as a show runner.

[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, 11 was a little too "I'm the Doctor and all I have to do is announce that and the Daleks shit themselves a little". In fact, I miss the Time Lords. I miss the Doctor having people and rules to answer to. They're making the universe revolve around the Doctor a little too much. The Doctor should feel more like a fugitive staying just ahead of their pursuers.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

great thought, and honestly would be extremely refreshing in a nuWho context. i was hoping the return of gallifrey to be impactful but it never really was. hopefully the Rani gives it another go.

[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 days ago

Well we've already lost the "main" Rani so who knows if the old Rani can even regenerate anymore.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 3 points 1 week ago

i don't know about that. just seems like such a negative perspective. the show has ups and downs, like anything.

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[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quite enjoyed the Chibnall era. Okay, it wasn't peak Who, but it doesn't deserve all the hate!

Also, to counterbalance my positivity, I was never that keen on Matt Smith as the Doctor. Never quite landed for me, though granted he had a huge act to follow after Tennant.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago

i'm about to revisit it. The series finale has spurred me on to revisit it. i do recall liking it at the time, while trying to not let the negativity get me down. I hope I can enjoy it more freely this time around.

And Jodie will be back soon with Big Finish!

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The only reason people are sick of the Daleks and the Cybermen is that for the past few years they've been reserved for big finales with 10 different plotlines. Put them into a story that engages with them thematically and they're good, it's just that that's barely happened since the Capaldi era

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago

yeah, you need to use them in a way that's emotionally resonant.

[–] Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many question me, but Matt Smith is still my favorite doctor.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 7 points 1 week ago

I'm glad! Sadly I didn't really start to appreciate him until he was leaving. When he took off the bowtie I was hit a lot harder than I expected. It was almost like a part of me thought he'd always be there, and then, he wasn't. :(

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spoilers for series 15, episode 8, The Reality War

Assuming Ncuti Gatwa is done as The Doctor, I'm bummed he never fought against Daleks, Cybermen, The Master or any other classic villains.

I liked The Rani and exploring Time Lord backstory, although I found the final two episodes VERY confusing, but it didn't quite scratch the itch.

I do appreciate trying something new in general and I was a big fan of many of the individual new stories, but I wanted just a little more classic Doctor Who.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gone too soon. He was just getting going! :(

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah. I feel like Gatwa and Whittaker both had a lackluster first season followed by a good second one and then just dipped at the end of it.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I still maintain that Kill The Moon isn't necessarily a bad episode, it's just not especially deep. It seems like the whole idea was for everyone to take an already bonkers premise and just run as far as they could with it, and IMO it feel like everyone's having a blast with it. If you accept it as just that I think it's fine.

Also I'm sort of glad the Disney deal is probably over, I think Doctor Who functions best when it's a bit scrappy and under-funded. It's a show that lends itself to big ideas and it can pretty much be anything, but I think when it's given a huge budget it tends to get quite over-indulgent and messy.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 7 points 1 week ago

I do think that working with constraints can spur creativity. I'm sad how much budget just went into CG slop. :/

That said, I do think the viewership on D+ has been good by D standards, so we'll see!

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we're gonna give everybody from Classic Who bit parts in new Who, the show needs to do a better job of explaining who the hell these people are besides 'oh the Doctor is excited so they're friendly'

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i feel like this puts the onus on the viewer, which i don't think is bad necessarily. for oldheads it can be a fun callback. for nuvians it puts them more firmly in the perspective of the new companions, where they aren't privy to the expansive life and history of the Doctor.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure how unpopular this is but Chibnall gets the daleks better than RTD and Moffat and his dalek stories are some of the best in nuwho.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 3 points 1 week ago

ooo i love that thought! i will revisit that, but i do know that the New Year Special with the Daleks is one of my favorite of that run. LOVED Jodie in that scarf!

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Capaldi was the worst of the new Doctors. I've even watched Whitaker's era twice but I can't stand to watch Capaldi a second time. He is so rude and mean, and that's a characterisation of the Doctor that I can't agree with.

It's a shame, because I liked Clara and I remember the time loop episode (Heaven Sent?) as having a really cool premise but I always give up my rewatched after the first one or two Capaldi episodes

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Upvoted for unpopular opinion but I can't agree. Personally Calpaldi is my favourite ever doctor. He does mellow out in later seasons and s10 is honestly my favourite series of nuwho so far.

[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah for me the whole point of regeneration is that the Doctor gets a new personality every time, not just a new look and one or two personality quirks. As 10 said, it should be like he dies and another fellow walks away. 12 feels properly different to the others but there's JUST enough continuity (eg his continued affection for River) to also make him feel like he's still the Doctor.

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[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This wasn't a controversial opinion, but the groupthink has collectively decided it is now.

RTD2 has been, generally, really good. Yeah the last episode kinda sucked, but mostly the ending. Which sounds like they were stuck between a rock and a hard place on that one. Really excited to see what's up with Billie though.

Also Sutekh's redesign totally works. Omega's redesign was pretty stupid though.

[–] Yaenntz@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am with the DW fandom since 2012, and since then (possibly earlier) the golden rule has been: The current showrunner is always the worst.

[–] nico198x@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago

this is spot on. fans, man. XD

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