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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

>no source

>"it was thought"? cool weasel wording; who thought it?

>tiny snippet offering zero context

>and then people parrot it uncritically

This is why I hate "le epic trivia!!"-style accounts; even when they're right (and they're often not), they're intellectual junk food designed for mindlessly consuming rather than learning.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Before the first verified individual migrating birds in the 1800s (via finding storks with spears still in them after migrating to and from Africa) people had a lot of weird ideas about why birds weren’t there in the winter. “They fly so far it’s literally off any map you’ve seen” probably made as much sense to the average person as them flying to the moon, or burrowing into the mud at the bottom of ponds to hibernate.

The latter probably made the most sense to many people who lived rurally, because bank swallows (sand martins elsewhere) actually do nest in tunnels they’ve dug into the sand near bodies of water. To anyone who went without seeing one all winter and then suddenly saw one leaving a burrow in the spring, ‘it slept there all winter’ is a lot less of a leap than ‘it flew thousands of miles round trip and got back when you weren’t looking.’

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

QI has a team of researchers based in Holborn, London - but they are ultimately a comedy and entertainment vehicle so all their facts need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, and to be clear, I actually really like trivia! The front page of Wikipedia has a section called "Did You Know?" (DYK) that has six or seven pieces of daily trivia. These are also researched and follow a similar format. The key differences are that: 1) the corresponding article is right there if you want to immediately verify what's been said, and 2) this article lets you understand the full context of the trivia if you want.

In this case, the most egregious part isn't the trivia itself; it's the kind of culture around trivia that it foments.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I wouldn't laugh at those old scientists

We still have huge organizations with billions of members in the world that believe their saviour is going to come back soon, destroy the world, dragons, demonic horsemen, fire, brimstone, people magically disappearing and rising up to heaven and everyone else getting thrown into a lake of fire.

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

And some of their more fanatic believers control the worlds largest economic military powerhouse. 🤷‍♂️

Must be doing something right.

Joke's on them - George R. R. Martin ain't coming back.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You laugh... but isn't some of that happening right now?!

[–] don@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Some of that has been happening, to varying degrees, since about the dawn of humanity.

[–] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I was watching an early episode of the Twilight Zone last night and an astronaut was asked what it was like in space and he replied "Like here but beyond" and I was thinking wtf what a weird way to describe space. Then I realized it was an episode that aired before humans had ever left earths atmosphere and they didnt have a proper understanding of how space really was at the time

[–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, the moon’s right over there, so birbs should have little trouble popping over for a bit when it gets cold here. Sense, friends, use it sometime, eh?

Meanwhile the birbs are like: "sometimes humans go to the moon." "Yeah right".

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well why not? That's where I go. Off-season rates!