I also want a Linux (not Android) phone. Are those stable yet?
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Nope! Not at all. Progress is being made and they're kinda usable but a massive pain with many bugs, major drawbacks, and little community support. They should all be assumed to be in alpha.
One day though. I'm sure of it
The best we have right now are android forks like graphene or e/os. These are still very good options though I'll be clear. No AI bullshit, fully de-googled (or mostly, if you need google services. Though grapheneOS can sandbox them,) and completely usable
Plenty of support from the community
Oh yeah, postmarket slipped my mind there. I had thought that point would be contentious too. Thanks for bringing that up but I still stand by what I said.
On postmarket the matrix was fairly active and helpful last I checked, but the lemmy is rarely used weeks between posts, not alot of chatter on mastadon, no real longstanding forums around it, and when searching for issies I've had not much if anything comes up at times. The wiki is nice though.
I'd argue community support to be lacking when compared to custom roms, desktop linux, or mainstream linux and by quite alot.
Postmarket is definitly the best of the linux phone OS's when it comes to that. Likely all around the best too. It's still very much lacking though
All current "working and marketable" linux phones are built on top of android currently for compatibility with that existing market, so it depends how detached from android you want to be. (To my knowledge. Id love to be proven wrong)
If completely, then no.
Better bet is an android OS that has everything ripped out of it and privacy hardened. Its the same thing the linux phone is doing but without the linux portion sitting on top.
Otherwise you can attempt to use a pure linux setup but it's going to be rough unless youre already set on dropping creature comforts.
Graphene?
Something like /e/OS? You can order Fairphones with e preinstalled and supported.
It’s a great sign when you have to trick your users into using the AI, right?
I am 10000% thats the point. Boomer grannies trying to turn their phone off activating that sweet sweet ai for more data stealing corps.
Wowww. This is how I find out about this after installing 'one ui 7' on my S23.
I reverted that button setting just now, but WTF.
Google just hit me with "AI Mode" as the most prominent option in Google Search.
Not 30 minutes since its AI overview gave me EXACTLY THE WRONG ANSWER to basic factual questions, regurgitating the wrong part of a Wikipedia article of content that it stole.
GrapheneOS
Can this be put on an s23? Unfortunately I am stuck with tis phone for a while.
So far, only Pixel phones
Or LineageOS for Samsung.
I helped a family member setup a Pixel 9 series phone recently, it has the exact same infuriating shit.
I hope every single person responsible for this bullshit in every company that does this is fired and never works in the tech sector for the rest of their lives.
I hope worse on them but good for you for being nice!
Power + volume up on Pixel phones too shut down, don't know if they did the same on Samsung's...
the emergency call and medical info were in that panel too and they're hidden away in the pull down menu??? fucked up. thank God for energy ring because that battery icon is terrible too.