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[–] EuroMod@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

@RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca Please add a source URL for the map (rules 2 & 10). Thanks!

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[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

I cannot be supported anymore as it has already passed: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/screen/home/disabled The end of the collection period was on the 17th of May.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Once again, mad respect to France

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 19 hours ago

I think these petitions depend a lot upon people actually being aware of them. I don't think it's widespread in Denmark at all

[–] lookupgeorgism@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

Maybe it’s already banned in these countries and there could be an assumption that it is already banned in most countries too, which make it seem like a less important issue.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

triggered by the legend: what is with 90%-100%?

[–] uskok@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are no countries in this bracket.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago

also not in some other, jet they have a legend entry

[–] alucard@feddit.org 92 points 1 day ago (2 children)

France showed tf up. Thank you France. Their signatures make up about 50% of the total number of signatures (>600k came from France and in total it's approx 1.2M signatures).

Thanks also to all the countries with at least 100%, because more than 6 countries were needed.

Thanks for every single one that signed - no matter the statistics. Every signature counts.

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Important to note; The French have a very strong culture of secularism, which turns out helps a lot with fighting against religious BS.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m torn between feeling proud my country did some good for once and annoyed that it means my signature is basically pretty useless compared to others.

[–] underscore_@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago

Giving your signature is never useless on things like this, as it is direct increase in the total support. The more the threshold is surpassed the harder it is to dismiss a moment as and activist fringe and not mainstream opinion.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago

But the ABA will never be illegal, because fuck everything apart from industry standard minorities.

[–] Cano@lemm.ee 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Portugal once again is confirmed as an honorary eastern European country

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've visited a eastern country a few times. I've basically felt like home there as if I was in Portugal. We are the same.

[–] starman@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago

As a Polish citizen, who spent several months in Portugal: yeah, it felt like home. Well, maybe except the temperature.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was looking for this comment

[–] Cano@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Well, you found it :P

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Fuck yeah France, I'm impressed.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

France now gets one week of free pass from banter as a reward for their hard work

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Slovenia is based.

I was expecting better from Denmark, though.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 22 points 1 day ago

Croatia had some 70% just in final day, but Denmark stayed at some 80ish the entire time. I've only heard about this petition from lemmy, maybe a couple of posts there and here made it work in some cases but not in others

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

The initiative was coming from a French organization. That obviously makes it easier to contact French LGBTQ+ groups to promote that initiative. However it is often difficult to contact groups in other countries, as those contacts are missing. Hence some countries might not have signed as much as they could have.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dane here. Haven't seen or heard about the petition.

I don't think conversion therapy is a thing in Denmark, so most people are probably like "eh, what's that old fashioned thing - we are already past that."

Could be wrong though.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conversion therapy is potentially a thing wherever the Catholic Church is allowed to operate, among other groups (for example here in CPH there is a strong Scientology presence).

As an Italian living in Copenhagen, I am genuinely surprised people here are sometimes so oblivious to issues in society.

Same thing with stuff like Salmonella cases, with multiple people telling me "Salmonella is not a thing in Denmark" 🀦

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for enlightening me!

I guess Danes can be a little "stuck in their own heads".

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

In Sweden they have the expression "ankdammen" to express the narrow scope of political and social attention. Didn't learn yet if something similar exists in Danish.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This has more to do with reach than with public opinion, no offense but I do not find this valuable information. I mean I'm glad with every vote, but this doesn't really say anything meaningful.

[–] Robbity@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Well it's both. Which tells you something about the French. Organized and intolerant to this kind of shit.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Pole here: I honestly though it was outlawed in Poland 5 years ago, but despite what Google AI lies, it wasn't. Catholic Church intervened and the ban never was voted for.

France πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 18 points 1 day ago

France accounts for some half of signatures, and also that's where this campaign is coordinated from

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

As a Croat, I'm baffled we've reached it.

[–] lemming@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm wondering about coverage. How much was it talked about in the public? How much was it covered by media? What's your experience from France and other countries that reached the threshold and from countries that remained far from it? People can't sign something they never heard about.

[–] troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I live in France and only heard about it from social media: first, by sheer chance, a few months ago from a minor Mastodon account, the second time three days before the deadline, from the same Mastodon account again. I don’t browse Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/Tiktok at all, so I’m not sure how the coverage was there.

A trans friend who’s normally way better informed than me about this stuff told me he heard about it less than a week before the deadline, so clearly word hadn’t spread that well, even if France already did have more signatures than most countries at the time. From what I can tell, it spread through digital "word of mouth" rather than through established medias. There was some media coverage, but reeeaally at the last time. A few politicians (mostly from the left) talked about it during the last days, too.

Like someone else said, ECIs don’t get a lot of media coverage and most people don’t even know they exist. By the way, in France, there’s also an official petition system to submit law ideas to the parliament, and it’s also not very well known. (Another problem being that most petitions on the parliament website are ludicrous because, contrary to ECI, no vetting is done before publishing the petition (as far as I know). I take a look at it now and then, and it’s really tiring to search for the legitimate stuff in the midst of all the ridiculous crap.)

[–] iglou@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't believe ECIs ever get a lot of media coverage, sadly.

Most people don't even know they can start/participate in ECIs and have their opinion taken into account at a european level. Best we can do is share the platform and make sure as many people as possible know about it.

[–] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Croatia it wasn't covered except for maybe some niche media and Grof Darkula. Still, I'm surprised we made it, homophobia is rampant here.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I saw it on r/croatia, tbh.

[–] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't use Reddit, but I'm glad to hear they covered this. Makes me kinda hopeful. :)

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"It's about covrage", "It's about reach, not public opinion", etc....

It's not far off from the data on public opinion, with some outliers.

https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/2972

wikipedia has a table

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an Italian in Denmark: WTF?

A lot of this is campaigning/spreading the word. Like France is fairly progressive but not 10 times as much as Sweden. Denmark and Austria are probably just late to the party. Not sure about Portugal though. They're Eastern European at heart.