this post was submitted on 14 May 2025
686 points (98.6% liked)

Technology

70153 readers
2299 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 397 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 125 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Odd how they didn't just put that in the title.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Guessing it was a force copy title for the sub and the article wanted you to click. They put it in the body of the post at least.

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

!savedyouaclick@lemmy.world

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 151 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is also why if you hit the lottery, you should take the discounted upfront cash payout, and not get it paid in an annual annuity for 20 years. You never know if the government is suddenly going become moral about gambling, and cancel all lottery payments.

Take the money and run.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 87 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, it's best to not participate in the lottery.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

True but that is a situation that doesn't really apply very often in the "if you hit the lottery" situation mentioned in the post you replied to.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't delude yourself into thinking you're being smart about the lottery by thinking about which is the smarter course of action in case of a win. The only way to be smart about the lottery is to not play.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The only way to be smart about the lottery is to not play.

I don't disagree, but I also thing playing the lottery once in a while is fine if you're just doing it as a daydream or something. Back when I worked in an office, if the jackpot got high enough we'd do an office pool and everyone that wanted to would throw in 10 bucks or something. And I've also done the same myself for the above reason but I play at most once or so a year.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 47 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Also because that lump sum is all there is. If you take the annuity they put the lump sum into an investment account and then pay you out of the proceeds (from which they take a cut, of course), and you can get the same returns they get, without losing their cut, doing it yourself.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Absolutely. However, if you are not the best with money, or on the irresponsible side; it might be best to take the annuity. Mathematically it makes no sense to do so, but if it stops you from blowing it all on hookers and coke in two years then its for the best. In other words, if you having it all is riskier than the state keeping track of it.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even if you're bad with money, take the lump sum and go get a fiduciary advisor to handle it and give you a regular payout. Being a fiduciary advisor is important since it means they are legally obligated to work to the benefit of your money, not lining their pockets. Using something like a trust is another good way to protect you from yourself.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 114 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I learned my lesson about “lifetime” thanks to SiriusXM.

When Howard Stern got lured to SiriusXM they offered a deal where you buy the receiver and pay $500 for a lifetime subscription with unlimited transfers to different receivers. Fat forward to 2017ish when I bought my last car that had the receiver built into the radio and tried to transfer to the new one. I was told that was the last time I would be able to do that and in the future I’d be paying a $75 transfer fee and be forced into a monthly subscription.

Lifetime is a hoax.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 124 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Lifetime is a hoax.

No, it's fraud.

The difference is that one is a funny joke and the other is a criminal act that ought to land corporate executives in prison, if the US weren't an oligarchy too corrupt to prosecute.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

This may be your lucky day then! You can likely use that lifetime sub now!

I did the Sirius lifetime deal a few years offered before the one you did (in 2003 I think?). At the time they called it the "Friends and Family" promotion. It was only $300 at the time for lifetime sub, and they gave you the hardware for free. I'm still using that same lifetime sub today.

I was told that was the last time I would be able to do that and in the future I’d be paying a $75 transfer fee and be forced into a monthly subscription.

This was absolutely true this was the rules at one point. However there was a rule change (via lawsuit maybe?) that allows UNLIMITED TRANSFERS and the fee is only $35/transfer. Its even on the SiriusXM website FAQ:

"Please note: You may transfer an active Lifetime Subscription to another radio an unlimited number of times. For each permitted transfer of a Lifetime Subscription, you will be charged a $35 transfer fee, and the transfer must be effectuated through your Online Account." source

Your account is likely still alive with your name on it! Contact them and get back into it!

Further, back when you and I bought our lifetime subs the SiriusXM streaming service didn't exist. It is actually pretty robust now. With your lifetime sub (even without it being on a vehicle), you have full access to unlimited commercial free streaming in their best quality bitrate (there was a time that they offered reduced bitrates for lifetime users but that's gone now too).

For me, because of a further discount I only paid $230 for my lifetime sub because I got a credit for my previous monthly service and I've now had it for over 22 years. So if you do the math, I'm paying 87 cents per month for full in-car and streaming SiriusXM. Lifetime deal was SO worth it!

[–] por_que_pine@lemm.ee 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

nope, nope, nope! buy a business, own it's debt and contracts. CLASS ACTION SUIT!

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SammyJK@programming.dev 103 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is absolutely disgusting behavior. "Cannot honor the purchases," my ass.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like "the new middle ages" really was a correct description of our time. Well, we're at the dawn of it. All our universal rights and universal truths are going to be subject to who's holding the dagger at your throat, and we'll have theocracies, family republics and feudal lords again. The blooming diversity of hell.

OK, this is a bit offtopic, just one can see such behavior in all areas today where they wouldn't be normal 30 years ago.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (6 children)

To be fair to the new owners the previous ones never mentioned the lifetime subscriptions existed and they were sinking the company. Probably the reason the original owners sold in the first place.

[–] imecth@fedia.io 55 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It was obviously a cash grab from the company before fucking off, you can't reasonably expect a lifetime vpn for 30 bucks. Either it eventually gets repriced, or they start mining all your information like every other "free" vpns.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 days ago

Yeah this looks to me like everyone got scammed, including the new owners.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They also said that they were cancelling lifetime contracts that hadn't been used in 6 months. Hard to see how those could be sinking the company.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ik5pvx@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Due diligence what...?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] J52@lemmy.nz 85 points 5 days ago

Yes, name and shame the suckers already in the headline so they get what they deserve! VPN SECURE , yeah, right.

[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is going to be Plex Pass in a few years if Plex sells out even more

[–] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 5 days ago

I’ve had a lifetime Plex pass for many years. I have converted completely over to Jellyfin after trying it.

It’s more involved to set up for secure remote access, but once in place it is so much smoother to use.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 20 points 4 days ago

My ex cyber security firm did this recently. They gave out forever licenses. But slowly changed things that if you didn’t set up an email with your license. You couldn’t renew it. So once you replaced a device your lifetime membership was gone. They recently completely removed the code input for licensing. So I am no longer able to use my lifetime license I got from working there. Pretty scummy stuff. But the CEO is a drunk. So what do you expect? He fucked up the attempted IPO and did a share replacement strategy instead. Which is probably killing the company.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Why would anyone be stupid enough to not honor them? Now, even if they backtrack, their name is mud. It's so stupid.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Damn straight. I never heard of this company before but you can bet your life I will never do business with them.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They will just change their name in 6 months. They all just get bought and sold non stop so you cant research if they are good or not. Kind of like those one apartments near a college that always change names and colors to trick freshmen into leasing with them.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

I think a company like this is not planning to linger for years. The owners wanna make a buck for a year or two and then sell it off. If they can stiff their customers in the process, they just don't care.

For long-lasting companies the motivation would be different. But this is not a world-famous VPN company, not by a long shot.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Especially when we are talking about VPNs. The reason so many companies are sprouting out of the ground to offer VPNs is because the margin they have is huge.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Glad people care this time, pure VPN did exactly the same thing except without the buyout. 5 years into a lifetime plan they said, "sorry, your account is closed". They were offering 5 year plans for less when I got the lifetime one. They didn't care and told me to complain to slashDot because that's where I bought it.

[–] schwim@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Pure did the same to me. They'd rather lose lifetime subs and save the traffic than foster customer loyalty. They didn't expect any of us to pay for a recurring subscription after doing what they did.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I assume most companies write somewhere in their terms that "lifetime" means effectively "whenever the fuck we want".

If there is a company that uses the word lifetime properly they may be worth a mention.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I remember when AT&T had "unlimited" data when the original iPhone came out and severely underestimated how much data people used.

Today, every cell phone provider has an "unlimited" plan and in the fine print says "up to x GB, after which you will be throttled."

That shit should be illegal.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That shouldn’t matter

If we had the most basic of regulatory practices over businesses in this country, especially the tech industry, this practice simply wouldn’t be allowed. Even the bullshit doublespeak “life of the product” version

Lifetime means lifetime. If you can’t honor that don’t offer it. If you go back on it you should be harshly penalized.

Looking at you t mobile, rolling stone magazine, filmora, Dropbox, salesforce, mcafee, etc

This should also include if you remove features from lifetime subscriptions and make them contingent on paid monthly subscriptions (looking at you adobe, Evernote, and probably plex in 3-5 years)

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm still salty about Cerberus' 'lifetime' subscription

[–] xta@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Me TOO!! i sent emails to support, posted on a google forums thread, this was like what, 13 years ago already?, eventually the thread got deleted, reach out to google support, they told me to take it with them, they never ever replied. so since then i never purchased a "lifetime" of anything

fuck them.

the app was very good though, and while typing this i got myself worked out and realized im still livid

edit: bought cerberus un 2015, got the

Hi xta, Your Cerberus license will expire soon. If you want to continue to use our services please consider buying a license. Click here to buy a license through secure payment! Thank You The Cerberus Team

email on late dec 2019.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Same here. I made them refund me and then delete my account. It was a small amount, but I was pissed enough that I wanted them to work for it.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago

It’s BS they didn’t know about it. They got the financials before the deal. Even if it wasn’t directly listed as a line item it would have been a part of the expenses.

They still thought the deal was worth doing as it was based on incoming revenue and outgoing expenses.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is also why I stopped prepaying for things. Sure I’m spending $50 more a year but at least I have flexibility.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 4 days ago

How do you not know? Do your due diligence lol.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Considering how many companies are forcing into their TOSs forced arbitration and waving the right to class action lawsuit, of course this kind of shit was going to happen.

load more comments
view more: next ›