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Pro models have USB 3 or 4 Non pro iOS devices have USB2
Not confusing… but I guess this is enough for an article
Take any usb-c charger, plug it in and it will charge. We just covered 90% of use cases.
Beyond that:
old phone: slow data transfer.
new phone: faster data transfer but still slower then computer.
So very confusing.
Not old vs new phones. Anything not Pro is 2.0.
480Mbps ought to be enough for anybody.
Except for <list all usecases that emerged since 2015 or so>
I'm just joking - it was a reference to the famous Bill Gates quote (that he didn't actually say) about 640k of RAM being enough.
People discuss this as if they connected their phones to their computers more than once in the past 5 years.
Ppl dont back up to local hd?
They let iCloud do the thing. Their computers don’t have that much storage.
I backup to my computer. It actually has more storage than iCloud and I don’t trust any cloud with my private data.
I’m sure we’ll find much evidence for hobbyists on Lemmy having different use cases from the general public but Apple wasn’t ever interested in supporting that niche at budget prices because there’s little money to be made there.
Regular person doesn’t need much offline storage because they download apps from the App Store, listen to music from a streaming service and sync photos to iCloud or Google Photos. Those people probably shouldn’t store their data offline either way because they won’t back it up properly. It’s another case of Apple treating general public like incompetent grannies but they’re kind of right about that.
Apple wasn’t ever interested in supporting that niche at budget prices because there’s little money to be made there.
Not true. Difference in cost between USB 2&3 is negligible. They've just done this to create artificial value for the "Pro" models. Same way they create artificial value with ram and storage.
I back mine up to my own cloud. Wirelessly 😅
Meanwhile me sitting with 4tb on my laptop and 5gb on icloud because fuck paying for cloud storage
sure, wirelessly.
I use ghost commander to backup to the NAS. No wires.
Oh i see. How's the transfer speed?
I can’t on iphone
Lemmy users can't fathom that average users aren't really bothered by it.
Wired screen mirroring would be a nice use case. E.g. just plug the iphone in a USB dock and watch a movie or join a meeting.
This works already on Pro and non pro models.
Thank you. It appears that even the USB-2.0 models support video output.
Yeah. I did it exactly once, on vacation, while I didn’t have internet connection/didn’t want to waste the rest of my data, and wanted to import photos to my MacBook to edit them. It was fast enough on the Lightning connector.
This is a complete non-issue especially since faster hardware would probably be more expensive. Apple has enough actual issues that are more important such as repairs, RAM pricing, sideloading, …
Only Pro models support reasonable speeds for USB-C, up to 10Gbps. Regular iPhones are capped at USB 2.0 rates, up to 480Mbps, which is no faster than Lightning. With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds -- with a vanilla iPhone 16, you're going to be waiting over 16 minutes.
10Gbps is about 20x more than 480Mbs but 8secs times 20 is 160secs which is a lot less than 16minutes so what is going on with this calculation?
With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds
1GB / 10Gbps = 1GB / 1.25GBps = 0.8secs
with a vanilla iPhone 16, you're going to be waiting over 16 minutes.
1GB / 480Mbps = 1GB / 0.48Gbps = 1GB / 0.06GBps = 16.67secs
Wow what a great article, well done.
Only off by a few orders of 10^x.
Typical shit journalism can't be bothered to look at the units on their calculator.
Sounds like the writer confused Mbps with MB/s or something.
But even then it's kinda weird.
Thanks for showing the math
I usually don't like to dogpile onto authors but I went to look at their article history (at least at this outlet) and they look to be almost Invariably Click-bait and or AI Trash.
iPhones and iPads may be trash but macOS is still certified UNIX and the Apple silicon M1-M4 are honestly game changers in PC CPU design.
I would never buy an iPhone or an iPad.
I would definitely, on the other hand, pay some good money for a high end mac. I just simply don't have that kind of money to throw around. But if I did, I would.
Hardware wise I really like the macbooks, but MacOS is certified trash. So many traps and hooks if you want to leave the golden path Apple has laid out for you
Ey, it's not that bad. I've been using it for over a decade, never made an Apple account (so no appstore apps) and I never use any of the built-in apps (except for super basic stuff like the calculator or preview).
Still beats windows.
Still beats windows.
No argument there
Agreed
And people still buy Apple products?
Of course they do. They blame the EU for forcing Apple to go with Usb c, because Apple had no time to adapt to it
Thank God I abandoned Apple a long time ago
Adding to the phrase "might be..." is almost like trying to give them the benefit of the doubt while the have a bloody knife in their hands actively stabbing someone else. This in 1000% on purpose.
99 % of smartphone users don't care about USB-C transfer speeds because they only use the port for charging. Maybe a fraction of these users uses wired CarPlay, which works the same with USB 2.0 speeds. Maybe some users use a USB-C to headphone jack adapter which works the same as well.
There's a tiny fraction of users that'll ever notice the speed difference (because they use the port for actual data transfer) but they won't find reading a spec sheet confusing.