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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't hate it.

Bullpupperest AUG.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The kriss has a really interesting internal mechanism. Worth a glance if you're into guns. I got to try it once and nothing feels like it.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't it have some kind of counter balance system so it recoils downward? Or do I have that backwards? I saw something about it years ago and it was indeed interesting.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah the recoil goes down at a ~45° angle so you get weirdly little muzzle rise. It was uncanny.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm assuming you only got to fire it semi-auto. I've heard the two round burst on non-civilian models is extremely uncanny feeling.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

2rb actually, at a place in Las Vegas. The guy next to me was literally firing a mini-gun.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Ooh nice. Of course it was in Las Vegas lmao. That seems very on-brand for minigunning.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Is there a Bullpuppy? Does it want cuddles?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I would very much like to see someone try to fire the Bullpup SVT.

[–] match@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago

they're good dogs bront

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So from a mechanics standpoint what are the pros/cons of a bullpup design? off the top of my head I'm guessing more barrel length but less space for any kind of recoil supression?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Pros: Longer barrel in the same overall size, or a shorter total length for the same barrel. A longer barrel means more exit velocity, while a shorter weapon means more agility in small spaces (indoors, for example).

Cons: the ejection port is close to the shooter's face, making ambidextrous weapons nearly impossible. The chamber is also closer, making it more dangerous in the (relatively rare) case of a catastrophic failure.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the ejection port is close to the shooter's face, making ambidextrous weapons nearly impossible

Keltec RDB

Keltec RFB

Springfield Hellion

DesertTech WLVRN

... I probably missed some, but there are many bullpup rifles that are swappable between left sided and right sided ejection ports, and swappable mag release, charging handle, bolt catch, safety selectors... or have some other solution to this problem.

Not exactly nearly impossible.

I would add in as a detriment of bullpups... that their internals are generally more complex, and properly identifying the cause of a failure to fire, and fixing it, while under stress, is often more difficult, and general maintenance tends toward being more time consuming as well.

Also: generally notorious for requiring a lot more foot lbs of force to pull the trigger, and that trigger pull is 'crunchier'.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

making ambidextrous weapons nearly impossible

Kel-tec calls bullshit

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

B-but the FN P90 is ambidextrous and ejects the casings downwards.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The FN P90 is weird no matter how you look at it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It's safer to look at it from the rear I believe.

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hard to scale that particular design up to longer cartridges, unfortunately. A 5.56 P90 would be so cool, though.

[–] zerosignal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The Keltec RDB has bottom eject and fires 5.56

Ckr even more noncredibility, the Keltec RFB is a bullpup with forward eject.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Two projectiles for the price of one?! Count me in.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Borderlands ass gun lmao

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Keltec just can't stop making cool shit

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is how the RDB rendered on my mobile browser:

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

we need wide zelensky with stout rdb rofl

Hot brass bukkake is the price you have to pay.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Cons

Also generally a more complex mechanism, with the associated negative effects on reliability, cost, or both

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

making ambidextrous weapons nearly impossible

Angry FAMAS noises
well, it's not strictly ambidextrous but it's allegedly pretty easy to change the side of the ejection

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Also weird ergonomic issues and a different manual of arms. Those can both be trained around, but that's a big ask for most militaries.

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