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Hamas official says group is open to discussions over truce with Israel (www.reuters.com)

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[-] rivermonster@sh.itjust.works 135 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 38 points 1 year ago

If they wipe out Gaza that's 2.2million people to be "clear cut". That's not a good look no matter how much good PR a side has

[-] Fraylor@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Honestly the question is would anybody care enough to do something about it? I see headlines everyday finger wagging at bigwigs all across the world but nothing actually gets done to them.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 30 points 1 year ago

If history is the guide, no one will intervene in the depopulation of a well armed country until the antagonist country makes international war.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

They've been murdering Palestinians for decades already. And nobody gave a shit, why would they start now?

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[-] red@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What Hamas did requires a response from Israel, and no amount of "truce now, k?" will be work. It's sad, but the only course for Israel is to hit back, and hard. Anything less would be bending over and showing Hamas can do this again.

In other words, you can't stab a person, and then go "whoa stahp" when the bleeding guy pulls a bigger gun on you.

Bystanderd will be hurt, but I hope it will be over quick and afterwards there can be a path towards something better.

Before you engage with what I said, be sure to read up on https://lemmy.world/comment/4385358

I wish Hamas could be eradicated, it would be the single best step for Palestine, and not far behind, Israel and the rest of the world.

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago

A senior Hamas official said the group is open to discussions over a possible truce with Israel, having "achieved its targets."

Yep, Hamas managed to entrench both sides in their fucking atrocity competition, so Hamas and the Israeli right-wing can both hang onto power by the fear and hatred stirred in their populations. Great. Same time again next year?

Fucking scumsuckers.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

After what happened, I don't think Israel is going to allow Hamas to hang on to power. They are not going to allow Gaza to ever again be in a position to attack Israeli citizens, and that's going to come at the cost of a lot of innocent Palestinians.

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[-] avater@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just as a little reality check for all Hamas "fans" (Hamas not Palestine!!) out here which are actually comparing them to Israel or openly defending them. The Hamas is founded on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which are a fairytale full of antisemitism and proven, false statements about Jews and how they are responsible for every bad thing that happens during the centuries and their diabolical plot for world domination (of course one of the favorite lecture of the Nazis)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Those idiots are really believing this fairytale and they use it to justify the murder of innocent people and Jews in general. So the next time you step in in defense of the Hamas or when you compare them to Israel, keep in mind that they are doing this because they believe in some antisemitic fairytale written by a crazy Russian back in the old days...they are basically Scientology only more degenerated and more violent.

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[-] osarusan@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Real Putin energy here.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've been living under an Israeli siege for over a decade and had a mature enough intelligence apparatus to plan a highly coordinated assault while living in a surveillance state.. If you don't think this wasn't a calculated informed attack you've got your head up your ass.

I'm not condoning indiscriminate killing and rape of civilians and taking hostages, I also don't condone the inhumane siege of Gaza that has been happening for decades. 50% of Gaza is under 18. That's not because they're popping out kids, its because you just don't survive that long in that kind of environment, those are also deaths. Not graphic ones that make headlines, but lives were still lost. Its incredibly hypocritical to assume Israel's shit don't stink in this situation either.

I'm also queasy when I read the coverage of the recent attacks by Hamas, I also haven't been living in a police state. Not saying this is the most effective way that they can achieve their objectives, but I can understand how someone growing up seeing violence, sickness and malnutrition for completely preventable reasons dehumanizes the people they see as being the cause of their situation and join or support an organization like Hamas.

[-] Dreamer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, when Palestinians resist against Israel, I'm not sure many people are informed about the differences between what Israel's actions are and the narrative it gives out. An example would be found in this Haaretz article covering how Israel systematically hides evidence of Arab expulsion.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I do think that Israel should stop its colonization of the West Bank, cease the blockade, and work towards a two state solution. But my sympathy is with the Palestinian people. I have absolutely no sympathy for hamas after what they have done and they deserve what will happen next.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

But my sympathy is with the Palestinian people. I have absolutely no sympathy for hamas after what they have done and they deserve what will happen next.

The Israeli government no longer seems to care about the difference between the two.

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[-] tory@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We took hostages so now you should negotiate rather than genocide the entire Gaza strip.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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[-] Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago

LMAO come on, guess they didn't expect the IDF to fight back 🤷🏽

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago

Taking a shit in the public water supply, getting roughed up as people demand to know why you just shat in the only watersource, and then you tell them to chill and that you "got your point across" lmao.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah sorry Hamas, no takesy backsies when you just murdered a bunch of civilians at a peace festival.

It's like your brother just stole your favourite toy and then he's like "ok now we can have a truce".

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I think he mean in the sense of hostage negotiations.

Practically speaking he's right, Hamas got what they wanted by doing a day of raids for some bullet spray kills, a few IDF outposts, and taking hostages for negotiating power.

Whether or not Israel will actually decide to negotiate for anything is another thing lol.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Hamas fucked around, is finding out, and want to talk "truce?" What does a truce with a bunch of genocidal terrorists look like?

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Not carpet bombing the Gaza strip, where 2 and a half million palestinians live I'd imagine.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

If Israel was carpet bombing the Gaza Strip, we wouldn't see hundreds dead. We would see hundreds of thousands dead.

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[-] QHC@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Good question, should ask Israel the same thing.

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're way past the line.

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