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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1-2 weeks ago: "Leftists have no idea about history. People can join bad organizations, even the Waffen-SS, to resist a foreign occupation and that doesn't make them a Nazi or a bad person."

Now: "Any Palestinian who joins or assists Hamas or any militant Palestinian group should be shot on sight. I support a complete siege of Gaza; all 2 million people inside must suffer, even die, for their crimes."

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Nazis: brave freedom fighters

Hamas: evil baby eating terrorists

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Goddamn that's a good comparison. I know these fuckers don't care but yeah, 100-com

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I used to lean towards reeducation but liberals seem to be begging to be tossed into the pit.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I was all for Palestine until they rudely interrupted my music festival next to the world’s largest concentration camp, forcing me to fly back to JFK in economy. They have left me no choice but to advocate for genocide.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Henceforth will only be referring to Joe Biden as Genocide Joe.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Genocidin' Biden should also be acceptable

[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Genuinely impressed by how mind-bogglingly stupid the average westerner is. Feed the westerner any propaganda slop and he'll eat it with a massive smile on his face while thanking his master. The allegedly propagandized asiatic Russian and the dumb bloodthirsty Arab already knows that most state news is fake and shouldn't be trusted, but the westerner can't even form an opinion without eating some slop first. You know as an Arab dude with a fucking family here in the West, it's getting harder and harder to live with such a hostile racist society. I've discussed with my wife if it's perhaps smarter to just cut loose the "privileges" of the West and move back into the Arab World and raise our future kids there. I'm close to the edge, I can't tolerate life here anymore.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Just wanna say a big fuck you to all the people that said the work Palestine Action were doing in the UK was useless and pointless adventurism or purely aesthetic.

Elbit Systems reduced their ammunition production by 75% in the last few years, and halved their drone production. All of this was happening in the UK and while it's probably only in the hundreds of thousands of 20mm - 40mm rounds and hundreds of drones these are still resources that have been deprived of Israel in this conflict.

Every single person that took part in those weapons factory attacks is a fucking hero in my eyes.

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Watching a livestream from Gaza at the moment. It's night, and it's very eerie. Pretty much the entire city is pitch black, only a few lights can be seen in the distance. But the sounds, that's where it gets terrifying.

The nights are not calm, the Palestinian does not sleep, the night in Gaza is full of activity and dangers. There's the constant sound of an aircraft engine, it's very likely that this is at least one UAV flying above the city, watching them closely from above. From time to time, a jet engine can be heard, and not long after, an explosion. The explosions are heard intermittently, they break the silent of the night, they wake people up, and those who are not asleep will most likely rush towards the explosion to begin the horrible task of removing debris and see who can be pulled out alive... The average palestinian in Gaza does not sleep, they can't, they know that any minute now could be their demise. There's no shelters, no fancy Iron Dome, just counting on your blessings that the incoming missile doesn't hit your place. These nightly sounds are all meticulously crafted to break the Palestinian's spirit, every sound is there to remind them they're stuck in this concentration camp called Gaza.

To every fucker both-siding this conflict: First, suck every nanomillimeter of my third world cock. Second, watch 5 minutes of live night footage from Gaza. Tell me if the average brooklyn colonizer piece of shit in Tel Aviv has to live through the same horrors EVERY. FUCKING. NIGHT.

[-] WilsonWilson@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

When Free speech ain't bussin'

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Damn how could China suppress free speech like this?!

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Liberals will probably see this and go, "Just like North Korea and China"

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[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

r/worldnews creatures seeing a cartoonishly fake dead baby story and immediately going WE HAVE TO KILL ALL THEIR BABIES is just maximally chilling

the west's full to the brim with temporarily embarrassed dirlewangers

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Banners reading "Genocide Gaza" and "Victory looks like zero people in Gaza" hang in Tel Aviv.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

in the last 18 months people who voted for Warren in 2020 have told me:

medieval-style city starvation sieges are ok

nuclear war wouldn't be that bad

our view of the Waffen SS needs some nuance

i keep thinking they've shown their entire ass but then they somehow keep exposing even more ass

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Highlight from Al-Qassam Brigades military spokesman Abu Obeida's speech yesterday:

We heard today that the senile old man Yoav Gallant called us "human animals." Perhaps they meant the lions that trampled over their pig soldiers' necks inside their military bases, tanks, and fortresses.

lol owned

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It is shocking how some people can treat the grief and suffering of other people so disrespectful.

From a Twitter post made by the Zionist entity's self-styled "embassy" in Copenhagen as comment to a video of masked men wearing Palestinian colors removing flowers that local residents sympathetic to the apartheid regime has put at the "embassy".

The tweet was posted while the occupation regime's air force was conducting terror bombings of civilian Palestinians in retaliating for the Al-Aqsa Flood.

Shoot and cry is easily one of the most disgusting forms of propaganda.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Absolute banger Chinese meme

I'm confused, the top right quadrant should also mention how beautiful and handsome we all are too

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is this about right?

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Also the bottom right is sometimes replaced with "India" lol

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

that's so fucking funny I'm laughing so hard rn hahaha

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Insanely perfect. Chinese memes are too powerful.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The great firewall protects (the west)

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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

People need to understand the effects of the current events of the collective psyche of the Arab World. You had populations whose connection to Palestinian cause in clear and quick decline, after the total loss of left-leaning pan-Arabism post-67 and Saddam's fuckups, and the wave of normalisation in culturally dominant states such as the UAE, Morocco and effectively Saudi Arabia. Then you had Egypt, whose population still absolutely loathed Israel despite normalising back in 1979, but the energy had been competely sapped out of everyone after US-backed coup in 2013. What has happened in the past week has breathed life back into the Palestinian struggle and also revived the struggle in the minds of hundreds of millions. Whenever Egypt collapses in the next 10 years, the leaders of that revolution or uprising are men and women that were further radicalized during the current events. When King Abdullah is chased out in Jordan, the leaders of that uprising will be the descendants of Palestinian refugees who were forced back into the struggle in October 2023. Every weirdo Saudi or Emirati nationalist who was making fun of Palestinians just two weeks ago, has now either been radicalized back into Arab and Muslim nationalism or chased out of Twitter. Just like 1948 gave birth to leftist pan-Arabism, then 1967 killed leftist pan-Arabism and revived Islamism, 2023 will give birth to a new kind of anti-colonial politics aligned with Russia and China, which will inevitably sweep the shakier Arab nations. The anti-colonial Palestinian struggle will survive another generation.

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

There are 6649 comments on this thread and yet my comments don't get 6649 upbears.

Curious.

[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

i never want to hear a single god damn thing ever again about how we "tankies" deny genocide

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Unconfirmed rumors that Hamas militants have been dressing up as sexy ladies with flowing hair and makeup, getting IOF soldiers immeasurably horny, before running around a corner and extending a frying pan behind them. So far at least 5 occupiers have fallen victim to this cruel attack, I seek condemnation at an international level.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm revising my position on the odds here.

The fact that the US is sending a second carrier group that will take 2 weeks to arrive is indicative of western generals believing that the Israeli position is not strong enough, and that they think it will still be needed even 2 weeks from now is a strong indication they don't think this will be over quickly.

Everyone that spread doomer shit about violent resistance being pointless and doomed was completely fucking wrong.

I am legitimately seeing what "paper tiger" really means.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The Westerners who think Israel is looking at some sort of cakewalk in invading Gaza are fucking delusional. Israel is looking at something closer to their own Grozny.

[-] skeletorsass@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are righteous and they have a lot of experience fighting a stronger enemy. May Allah (超绝万物) guide them. palestine-strong palestine-heart

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