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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well Trump essentially made it official yesterday that even if someone is imprisoned by mistake it will not be reversed

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

And if you are someone he doesn't like, for your views, your skin color, your accent, your sexual orientation, your gender, your education, your occupation, your ethnicity, the way you look at him, or how you don't fawn over him enough or fall behind with your protection payments, he'll have you "accidentally" kidnapped and imprisoned for life or until the Salvadoran authorities decide you're a waste of resources and kill you.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 46 minutes ago

Bottom line: if youbwetent born here, youre getting thrown out, and NOTHING will stop them, including a Green Card or Naturalization.

Eventually, it won't even matter if you were born here, and are a full natural American-born citizen, from generations of American-born citizens. If they don't like you, you're gone.

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Both the American and El Salvadoran heads of state have stated that neither is able to return people sent from the US to CECOT.

In other words, this man will die in CECOT.

[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 54 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

According to the original article, he was here legally waiting until their court date in 2027 to see a judge. He is not a US citizen, but he also is not an “illegal alien.”

No alleged history of crime. No crime in process when detained. Was following the immigration process.

If anyone wants to argue with you about others who have been detained and deported as being “criminals” or “illegals,” this should be evidence to the fact that it isn’t true and ICE doesn’t care. We’re in the slippery slope now.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now? We're damn near the bottom of the mountain at this point.

[–] kooks_only@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I really fear that this is just the beginning of much worse things to come.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 101 points 9 hours ago (4 children)
[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 32 points 6 hours ago
[–] gjoel@programming.dev 21 points 8 hours ago

He's higher on that chart than Griffin though... Need to move Not Okay just below the top square.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 212 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Looks like if you re approached by ICE, you need to assume it's a kidnapping.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 3 hours ago

Indeed, do not cooperate and fight back. They are NOT a legal authority. If they have a uniformed officer with them (state or city), demand the officer arrest you instead. It MAY be worth it to cause a scuffle and get arrested for assault, which could be dropped as self defense. I'm not a lawyer though, just my opinion. You have to fight these assholes. Get the low level pukes into court and tied up fighting charges. Make them scared to do their master's bidding.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 143 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And being sent to El Salvador is a death sentence. I would act in self-defense appropriately.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Glad to hear it. State law is not your friend, and now, it's your enemy. If you're targeted, the vest that says POLICE (or ICE) means nothing. They are just people in a fancy outfit. They're still there to intrude and fuck up your life.
Laying down doesn't save these people any more.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago

Laying down doesn't save them anymore? Never has.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 48 points 9 hours ago

Because it 100% is a kidnapping. This is so freaking dangerous and entrapping.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 31 points 9 hours ago

And compliance will not save you

[–] raoulduke85@lemm.ee 19 points 9 hours ago

At this point, you’re fucked, might as well arm yourself. Rather go out like that then be tortured in a foreign prison.

[–] ryan_e3p@lemmy.world 150 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

No gang ties, no criminal history, not even from that country.

We are the baddies.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ryan_e3p@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago

It's a shame, there was a scene cut where Captain America walks buy a building showing graffiti art of his helmet with the word 'fascist' in red on it, causing him to sigh and toss it off. I don't think he wore it again until Endgame, where they incorporated it into the time travel suit.

Wish that scene should've been kept in, and had a bit more focus on Steve Rodgers questioning if he truly was working for organizations that believed what he did. A crisis of faith moment for him instead of a quick 3-second pass with a joke from Hawkeye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7g7stCb4qY&ab_channel=cutiesmolbaby

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We always have been the baddies

[–] ryan_e3p@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I think there are a lot of people who honestly mean well. Have been in the past, and likely still are. But what we have right now, to take a cue from Komodo up above with his Captain American post, this is like real-world Captain America: Winter Soldier, where it looks like overnight we've suddenly become a fascist nation. Sad reality though is, like that movie, things have been going on for decades that led us to this point.

I'm not optimistic about our near future. Shit looks grim. But, I'm optimistic that we can eventually fight our way out of it, and hopefully correct things after whatever needs to be done, is done. Got to have some hope, otherwise there's no point in holding on at all.

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[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 56 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Lol, the "fairness meter" says unfair left leaning. The article is literally just stating what occurred. ❄️

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 hours ago

Facts have a liberal bias.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

1000006466

If you didn't vote it doesn't show the result.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So it just defaults to unfair left?

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Not really. There is no default value and the UI renders the initial needle state as being off the chart.

Click the unfair left and see what happens (it does not automatically submit your vote).

Yeah it's not the greatest UI. It's in its "resting" state like in a car, but it makes it look like it's so far left it's off the charts. They should just not have the needle until you vote.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago

Got it. Thanks for the info! That is a little misleading how they have it.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 46 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Forcibly remove first, ask questions later is going to soon end up kidnapping random people out of the country...

Conservative excuses and goalposts will adapt as we go along:

  • but look, he was supposed to be deported anyway (Abrego Garcia)
  • doesn't matter that he has a valid asylum case, he came here illegally so he should be kicked out (Gutiérrez)
  • If you don't want to support America, you shouldn't have a green card (Mahdawi)
  • he looks like he came from out of the country and he helps illegal migrants anyway, too bad he's a US citizen
  • these were people spewing violent rhetoric about Trump and America, take them out of the country if they don't want to be here
  • hey wait, this is a mistake!? (future kidnapped Conservative)
[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

(Formerly American) Conservatives in CECOT: You can't detain me, I have a rights!

Trump administration: Do you feel like you have rights?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago

“Soon end up” … my dude, it 100% already is. This article is exactly that. A random kidnapping and booting.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 hours ago

It's already resulting in them kidnapping random people out of the country.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If anybody is wondering what conservatives think, they haven't yet gotten their instructions for this particular case yet

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

They’re all cumming their brains out to this shit

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 49 points 10 hours ago

Wilmer Gutiérrez last spoke to his son on March 16 during a brief call allowed by police. He had spent days searching for information, visiting police stations and courthouses, only to be told there was no record of his son.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 29 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Are American law enforcement just reading Nazi history and emulating it at this point?

"Oh yeah, they did this in 1942 so we should do that too!! ... Kristallnacht? ... oh yeah, we gotta do that one too! ... and book burnings and maybe a giant parade or a mass rally with flags and shit"

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

More like the Cheka in the Soviet Union that just kidnapped anyone they found on the street to meet a quota.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I wonder how long until someone in Trump’s circle suggests they have people wearing symbols on their shirts so they can’t make these mistakes anymore?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is the 21st century though so it’s going to be sub-dermal RFID tags that get scanned like toll booth passes in cars.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
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