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tl;drThey're planning to under declare the value of goods. If a company doesn't want that, the sellers will handle the shipment on both ends, bringing it through customs at a lower value and then deliver it.

How do other countries deal with this?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

How do other countries deal with this?

Mostly by ignoring it. People don't do it for high value stuff because you can't insure an item without declaring its value correctly. Everything that travels with incorrectly declared value will be insured only for the incorrectly declared value.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This would be funny if it makes Amerikkkan customs paranoid, so they check every single package & shipment and it grinds the supply chain to a halt

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That happened on a smaller scale when they tried to abruptly end de minimis around 2 months ago. Previously they would at most randomly check a few of these small packages, suddenly they had to check all of them. USPS customs ground to a halt and items were delayed for up to 2 weeks or so even though they paused the de minimis repeal very quickly.

They're allegedly going to try it again. Their supposed solution is to bypass USPS and have private companies add very large customs fees on top of tariffs. If implemented it would kill the small direct orders market but not after a bunch of pain for buyers that didn't realize their $50 temu order would get a $75 tariff and a $50 fee tacked on after they ordered.

If this is all implementd it will mean much less trade and more expensive imports for basically no reason or benefit. Just a bunch of new pointless and privatized customs workers.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're allegedly going to try it again. Their supposed solution is to bypass USPS and have private companies add very large customs fees on top of tariffs.

amerikkka-clap I'm sure this will work out very well

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

lmao right?

[–] dead@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

Capitalists love to say that value of commodities is subjective until it comes to taxing China.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 5 days ago

Brazilians: first time?

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

good luck proving the value of every single item, US govt. Lol.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How do other countries deal with this?

Whenever I've ordered shit for personal use internationally (mostly China and Japan, but I've also ordered from Russia ages ago), the seller usually asks me what value I want listed on the customs invoice. Granted, I'm not buying stuff in bulk for resale or whatever. Seems like a pretty common practice - the risk of under-valuing comes into play if a shipment gets lost/damaged while in transit

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

It's very common for avoiding de minimis and/or having a lower tariff fee. Some countries have de minimis of around $50 so the seller will list the vakue as $30 for a $150 item, foe example.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

remember kids, defrauding the government is only based if you get away with it

the second you get busted it is not longer based and you suck for not being clever enough to get away with it

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

CBP isn't doing shit now, does anyone think they're going to start checking everything that comes through on AliExpress?

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

Their supposed plan is to have private companies do it and charge large fees. This would just crush all Aliexpress (as is) demand, though. To keep functioning they would switch to stateside warehousing models or some loophole. They already use their own repackaging service to make there be fewer packages and their own delivery services to bypass USPS, UPS, etc.