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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 days ago

Since when did war crimes count as just means?

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

What a weird way to refer to your country. "The one and only Jewish state" thats like saying "the one and only American state" or "the one and only French state"

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 152 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well, I was on the fence about Carney, now I see he won't be totally awful for the country.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

At least he answers questions comprehensively.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 122 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Ha, "civilization". So that's what they're calling genocide today. Netanyahu needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't that the standard line when it comes to people settling land with pre-existing tenants?

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This is the same rhetoric that was used in Canada's genocide of indigenous peoples.

Part of reconciliation is denouncing what happened in Canada, which is still being felt today, and working towards reparations that are led by Indigenous peoples. We must learn from what happened and do better. But it is all in vain if we support the same atrocities being committed in other parts of the world.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago

Stacks of dead innocent people and he thinks the other guys are the barbarians. Irresponsible statement?! HAHAHA. Get fucked you murderous piece of shit! There is no justification for what you are doing. And who cares about your one and only state. You don't deserve it.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I hate Hamas but the way Israel is dealing with this is horrible.

It doesn’t have to black and white or antisemitic to say that.

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield, but that’s still not an excuse for leveling entire cities and indiscriminately killing civilians, or blocking aid that you could instead be supervising.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 6 days ago

The main thing is that Isreal intentionally blocked and prevented critical aid from reaching a starving population of civilians. Thats the core of the genocide case because it demonstrates motive and intentionality to hurt only the civilian population. The report that revealed this was what flipped my opinion from supporting isreals response and war objectives.

People call bombing buildings and killing civilians genocide but its an expected part of this type of war. If the enemy hides among the civilian population you can kill the civilian population. If the enemy hides in buildings and booby traps them, you can destroy the buildings.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bibi is a fascist authoritarian, a war criminal, and is so corrupt he's facing jail when he leaves office. He is no better than Hamas.

Zionism is literally religious nationalism β€” which shouldn't be tolerated by ANY religion β€” therefore Israel IS a fascist state. Society needs to stop acting like it's okay for the abused to become the abuser because they were abused. It was never okay, and it still isn't.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

He is never leaving office. In the very unlikely event that the Israeli people start to turn on him I am like 90% sure he will try to pull off a coup and/or a false flag op rather than leave peacefully and face the music

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[–] plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (15 children)

The only people using human shields are the IDF

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield

They're not, for the most part. This is Israeli propaganda that really took hold, but there was never any evidence for the human shields stuff.

[–] polyploy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

Yep it's actually Israel that has routinely and systematically employed captured Palestinians as human shields. For some background, there is this recent article in Haaretz stemming from anonymous IDF soldier reports, titled "In Gaza, Almost Every IDF Platoon Keeps a Human Shield, a Sub-army of Palestinian Slaves".

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bibi, the Liberals are already going to win, you don't need to help them!

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[–] discomatic@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago (15 children)

It boggles my mind every day that a fucking Jew would commit genocide. Goddamn.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's assholes everywhere. A religion, ethnicity, origin, gender, sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

An asshole is gonna be an asshole.

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Conservatives are literally all the same.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Imagine the lack of self-reflection to call someone a barbarian while committing genocide to steal more land from Palestine. I can't apprehend the confusion of thought necessary to think this way without starting with some blunt force trauma to the noggin.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a Jewish state, a Zionist state. A Jewish state would follow the Mosaic Covenant. They wouldn't covet their neighbor's property (Palestinian's land) They wouldn't kill (genocide). They wouldn't take the name of God in vein by attributing their horrible actions to their god. They wouldn't steal the land and houses from people. They wouldn't bear false witness against their neighbor by calling Palestinians terrorists for simply not giving up when their land is being stolen. A Jewish state might not be that bad, a Zionist state, on the other hand, is a fascist state. #Gaza #Genocide #Fascism #Netanyahu #Zionism #FreePalestine

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shit did Carney criticize Israel? He gonna get 90%in my riding anyway, but I might change from bloc to liberal if it's a proper critic.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sort of, but he mostly walked it back. Hard to tell if he's doing it to get through the election. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-clarifies-genocide-remarks-1.7506027

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Is this what triggered Bibi?? Nothing else happened?

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Israel is always on a hair-trigger against the faintest whiff of criticism. It's why almost everybody of any significance is terrified of giving them even the faintest whiff of criticism even when they richly and profoundly deserve it. Dictators often fall into the same trap (aptly named the "Dictator trap") when they make their administrations and subordinates afraid to criticize them and as a result end up finding themselves surrounded by yes-men and sycophants and become increasingly disconnected from reality. Criticism is necessary and important feedback for any nation, organization or person, and by instantly denying it and calling every hint of criticism "anti-semitism" Israel have spent decades robbing themselves of the ability to use any criticism to learn and guide their own actions. It's sad, because it's actually very understandable why Israel is so sensitive to criticism after what they lived through in WW2. We are literally seeing the legacy of generational trauma on a national scale. They now hurt others because they have been hurt so badly themselves. They are even hurting themselves because they are so afraid of being hurt again.

The reason they think all their actions in Gaza are completely justified is because they have pre-emptively shouted down anyone who might give them any contrary idea. Even people who are Jewish or Israeli are accused of anti-semitism if they criticize settlers, zionism, the IDF, or anything else Israel does. When you refuse to even engage with any views contrary to your own established point of view, you're creating an information bubble which may or may not have any basis in reality, and you'll never even be able to know whether your position is based in reality or not because you're simply not engaging with any other views that could ground you in reality.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"civilization" vs "barbarians"

Typical speech for those trying to justify genocide.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Where's Boudica when you need her.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 week ago

Canada has always sided with civilization

well that’s one way of saying it

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Israeli fascist, go fuck yourself."

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

I swear the nation of israel is trying to go down with the ship that is the trump administration.

No nation, or organization should be able to get away with murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians just because they want their land.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Bibby has a weird definition for civilized I bet.

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