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Is this a bug or is it real? Everyone is saying that Otto is the new European amazon but it doesn't seems like that. (I am already buying from allegro but they don't have this product in stock)

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[โ€“] Diurnambu1e@hexbear.net 1 points 11 hours ago

Yetif they started they may not have enough client yet to extend to the rest of Europe. Thanks for sharing this I didn't knew this site.

[โ€“] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is real. Apparently: "Die Lieferung erfolgt ausschlieรŸlich innerhalb von Deutschland." (Delivery is only possible within Germany.)

Weak Otto. 2025 and you can not ship a good from Germany to Italy or Denmark while Amazon and [add china shop] ship worldwide over a decade.

[โ€“] leisesprecher@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Otto is generally surprisingly backwards. They still can't even handle multiple vendors in a single invoice. That means, if you buy five items, but two of them are from independent sellers, you'll not only pay for shipping three times (somewhat understandable), but you'll also get three different invoices that you have to pay separately. It's 2025, and 90% of all software devs in Hamburg have worked for Otto at some point, and they still can't get their shit together.

[โ€“] Tweak@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Itโ€™s 2025, and 90% of all software devs in Hamburg have worked for Otto at some point, and they still canโ€™t get their shit together.

I'd put money on that being a dumpster fire of a workplace - the kind where turnover is very high, everyone is constantly busy putting out fires with slapped together solutions, and if anyone tries to do anything that might prevent future fires they get shouted at for not putting out fires.

[โ€“] leisesprecher@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, they actually got a pretty good reputation. They're a big corporation with probably hundreds of devs in their HQ. It's not unlikely that a whole bunch of devs came into town specifically because of them or were hired straight out of university.

[โ€“] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Theyโ€™re a big corporation with probably hundreds of devs in their HQ.

If they are like that and not dystopian as an employer they would be the big exception in that size category.

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's 2025, and 90% of all software devs in Hamburg have worked for Otto at some point, and they still can't get their shit together.

Hell, I'd be happy to take a crack at it if they'd sponsor my work visa...

[โ€“] leisesprecher@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Actually, they might do that.

[โ€“] Frjttr@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thatโ€™s Germany for you ๐Ÿฅฒ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

Always at the forefront of the last decade (sometimes even last 2 decades!)

[โ€“] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't use brave.

And: I don't know if Otto is really that great. It's just a marketplace where people sell cheap stuff imported from china. I just ordered a mirror that I have to send back, because it's not even (as in flat).

[โ€“] MorukDilemma@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are also a German multimillionaire family. They are old German money. The kind that uses their political influence to lobby against property or inheritance taxes.

[โ€“] brotundspiele@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago

So it really is an alternative to Amazon in all regards:

  • Selling cheap crap from china to overblown prices
  • Giving money to people who have too much already
  • Using that money to influence the politics in favour of the richest

I just hope they also have shitty customer service and handle their employees like shit so they can replace the big A.

Not to defend them, but almost every single rich person lobbies for less property and inheritance taxes

[โ€“] Franklollo@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago

That's odd...

[โ€“] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Apparently, Otto itself delivers only in Germany. Yet, there are ~~subsidies~~ subsidiaries in the Netherlands, Austria, UK, and Japan.

https://www.otto.de/shoppages/lieferungausland

[โ€“] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oh, yes. Thanks.

[โ€“] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

I've been in Japan a decade and I think this is the first I've seen the name. Interesting

ah, that explains it.

[โ€“] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

AFAIK Otto only works in Germany. But they own shops in other countries : For example if you are Swiss: Heine, Ackermann, Quelle, BonePrix, About You and Jelmoly online are part of the otto group. In Austria they are under Baur (I think).

Maybe you can find one of their shops for your country here:

[โ€“] Igilq@szmer.info 13 points 1 day ago

It could be because they donโ€™t have any contract signed for delivering in other eu countries

[โ€“] rbn@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

You can check this thread for other alternatives.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/23555632

[โ€“] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are an odd shop, anyway. I recently looked where to get a certain LEGO set. At their own shop, it cost โ‚ฌ99, at OTTO, the exact same set was โ‚ฌ179.

[โ€“] Franklollo@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah some stuff it's expensive AF

[โ€“] minilemmy@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Cidscount and Galaxus should be good alternatives

[โ€“] Im_old@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like onbuy.com ships internationally (they're UK based)

[โ€“] SrMono@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So that would mean additional customs?

[โ€“] Franklollo@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I guess. The item I want (table saw dial indicator) it's a bit cheaper than Otto (15โ‚ฌ) but it will probably get stopped by the custom. But yeah since I can't find it anywhere locally, I will buy it there edit: they don't ship outside of the UK