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Maybe, just maybe keep them on like.. all the time? Wild idea, I know!
Should make turning bodycams off a criminal offense.
I would be fine with them being off for bathroom breaks and lunch. I am good with only requiring them to be on during calls, but then also assuming the officer did whatever someone says they did if the camera is not on to support the officer. Treat it as protecting the officer and it will be on to protect the public.
bet someone will be like "what if the camera suddenly doesn't work?!"
then don't fucking kill anyone. Same as if your gun jammed and you couldn't kill anyone that day.
Maybe there shouldn’t even be a switch
Always on. Simple as that. Have a little magnetic charger that sticks on it to keep it charged up while in the car, pops off by itself when you get out.
Wouldn't they then just "forget" to charge them?
Always on means always accountable.
Oh look at that chunk of missing video from Officer Piggins, that's a fine, probation and an audit.
In this theoretical scenario I think they'd be told to "forget" to come into work tomorrow (or ever again) ;P
Police with standards, though? Maybe not in the United States.
Fuck that, install them with local area wireless chargers.
They are not perfect, but could be perfected with funding and more engineering talent dealing with it. But with this, the charging antenna could be embedded in the console between the seats and the cameras charged by virtue of existing in proximity. No need to take them off, no need to turn them off, no way to prevent them from being fully charged and on without tampering that js obvious. You would have to put them or the antenna in a Faraday cage to prevent them from charging.
Having a bodycam off should be a 3rd degree felony & grounds for termination.
I once got downvoted to oblivion on Reddit for saying I'd rather some person have to see a cops dick out when they piss (through video) than see another case where a cop turns his bodycam off during an encounter.
They should never be turned off and I agree it should be instant prison time no questions asked.
Nothing should be instant prison time no questions asked. That’s not justice that’s vengeance.
Cops should be held to a higher standard.
That doesn’t mean having no trial
The people they shoot don't get a trial
Even the very worst bad guys, even if they're cops, deserve a fair trial, and a safe stay at a non-barbarous prison with a chance for rehabilitation.
Do you want to improve things, or just get vengeance? Your mindset is the same mindset that got us in this situation, it’s the same mindset that has been used to allow things like that to happen.
Incorrect and wrong and also I am stronger than you and could beat you in a fight
My dads stronger than your dad
I think our dad's should kiss
My grandpa's been dead for decades and he could still beat your dad and everyone else in this thread and their dads too.
I think the latter comments in this thread are satire, but I wanted to defend dad and gramps. :)
If you look at my comment history it's mostly dumb satire that sometimes lands and often doesn't lmao
Your batting average is better than mine.
See the difference is we're supposed to hold these people to higher standards. If they fuck up the punishment should be more extreme and their actions should be heavily scrutinized. If they can kill someone with little to no evidence they should be just as susceptible to losing everything with even the slightest fuck up.
You have to take the emotion out of it when making decisions like that. If you don’t, you end up in the exact same spot
As long as there is a 3rd party review process to filter out background people in restrooms and other sensitive areas to avoid getting random people in trouble because a cop was present with a camera on.
You know, like a 10 year old using a urinal.
That shouldn't be hard to achieve
It's very, very hard to achieve something they're trying not to.
Off or purposely blocked by their hand for more time than can be considered a reasonable accident should be a crime and immediate ban from law enforcement for life.
I believe CO already requires juries to assume malfeasance if the body cam's off
They shouldn't have a switch...
Oops you mean you wanted us to have the camera turned on when you passed bodycam legislation?
Here I was, thinking that was the entire point of all of this
"Thank you for your consideration, sherriff"
gets shot 3 times in chest and once in the head off-camera
Here's an idea: let's remove the off switch entirely
Gee, ya think?
Taking bets on how many assaults/murders by police will happen between now and the time this idea is officially shot down.
this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2023
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