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In light of Mozilla’s recent policy changes, we no longer feel assured that Firefox aligns with our commitment to protect your privacy. This prompted us to revisit the choice of default web browser in Zorin OS 17.3.

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[–] off@programming.dev 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

one of the worst distros ever so I guess this is pretty obvious choice and telling to some.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No, that would be manjaro.

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[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 23 points 4 days ago

A bad move. But again i hate that many distros have a default browser and they don't let you choose.

[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 113 points 5 days ago

“Mozilla has a bit been shady lately, so we are making the difficult decision to change our default browser to something significantly more shady. We are confident our users will feel safer knowing their data is in even worse hands than before"

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 33 points 4 days ago

"we replaced the browser with ad ware, that we even admit we had to ship settings to minimise its malware effect"

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 170 points 6 days ago (21 children)

While FF's evil quotient has been on the rise, Brave definitely isn't a better option. If anything, librewolf is the way to go.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 49 points 5 days ago (3 children)

As a Librewolf user I wouldn't make it default for casual users this kind of distro is aiming for. Sure enabling logins to use it as a main browser is piss easy, but that's still more work than the average person wants to put into setting up their system.

Waterfox would be the better choice since it's just default Firefox in every way besides Mozilla's spyware.

[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 19 points 5 days ago

Agreed, I wouldn't recommend Librewolf for casual users. I understand why Librewolf makes those decisions, and I'm glad that it exists, but you definitely run into some quirks when using it. I'm thinking about switching from Librewolf to Waterfox myself.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Doesn't Librewolf log you out of every site when you close it, by default? I don't think that's a good default

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That is the default behaviour, but it's pretty trivial to change. Also, I'd imagine the distro maintainer could choose to change the default settings as part of a post-install script, if they wanted to.

Edit: Not sure why you're being downvoted, as I do think it's a valid concern.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Brave marketing has gone crazy to convince people it's less dodgy than Firefox. Come on!

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Every time someone says anything positive about Brave I assume they're part of the Crypto scheme, or love Brave's CEO.

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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 28 points 4 days ago

Brave hates gays

[–] arsCynic@beehaw.org 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They should've picked LibreWolf which ships with uBlock Origin. Brave is a disappointing choice because it supports multi-level marketing pyramid schemes which says enough about their moral compass.

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✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

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[–] azron@lemmy.ml 126 points 6 days ago (13 children)

How is brave the lesser of those two evils?

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 48 points 6 days ago

Crypto scam browser is never a better evil...

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 43 points 6 days ago

Based on absolutely nothing, I feel like it isn't..

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 27 points 5 days ago

It isn't.

Brave sucks Google balls.

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[–] Unmapped@lemmy.ml 73 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm actually not familiar with this distro. But if I installed a Linux distro, and it had brave installed. I would immediately switch.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago

Brave is a fairly recent outlier, and while it isn't quite proprietary, it stinks a fair bit of something capitalist/crypto.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (11 children)

the everyday linux distro that is famous for asking people for money for their pro version, cause they know most of the userbase is coming from windows and doesnt know that everything is free?

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[–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Seems like a strange choice. If anything i would've expected them to just use a firefox fork or something.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 75 points 6 days ago

That's a clown makeup moment for Zorin OS

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 38 points 5 days ago

Firefox is bad, Brave is evil. Why did they decide switching is a good idea?

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 35 points 5 days ago

That's gonna be a no from me, dawg

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 42 points 5 days ago

Blech. I'd downvote this because I disagree with their decision, but I'm glad you brought this to our attention.

[–] markinov@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Recent firefox policy change is controversial, but how brave is better?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 8 points 4 days ago

"We don't like the proposed new Coke recipe, so we're switching to drinking raw undiluted sewage instead".

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 days ago
[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think maintaning a Firefox fork is pretty demanding especially considering you are already maintaining a distro. And there are already a lot of Firefox forks out there.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago

talk about bad taste

[–] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago
[–] funbreaker@kbin.earth 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like if they were gonna go chromium, they should have gone with Vivaldi. It may not be open source but it's not doing a crypto scam. Waterfox would have also been a good choice, probably better because it's Gecko.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (9 children)

The distro sucks anyway. They ship really fucking old packages, even more so than Debian or other stable distros.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Not sure why they don't just ship Firefox with extensions like uBlock pre-installed

Edit: it looks like they're heavily tweaking Brave regardless. I doubt this move was for technical reasons

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Brave is a series scam company. There are only two reasons anyone would support them: They were scammed, or they joined in the scam.

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