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The moment corporations see they are cheaper, they'll start pushing for them, exaggerating their benefits like environmental impact as a propaganda tool.

But there would still be slaughtered meats for as long as there are rich assholes paying for "the true experience" or just because it's not something everyone gets to do and they like to feel unique and superior to the rest of humanity.
Knowing those out-of-touch monsters, they'd double down in 'the experience' by getting to slaughter the animal themselves or something like that.

i just want cheap blocks of TVP available in the store

we've had the technology to make TVP for decades, it's a perfectly fine replacement for meat if you just marinate it a bit, why the fuck is it not bog standard?

Dodo birds went extinct for a reason, Galápagos tortoises are almost there too.

I reckon they must be delicious, cultivated meat is likely the only way we're ever going to find out what the big deal is. If we can find out without slaughtering an animal then I can see no downsides.

In Transmetropolitan where they can lab grow whatever they want, I think one of Spider Jerusalem’s favorites was polar bear eyes.

I'm curious what would happen to all the cattle. We'd only need a tiny fraction. So would some actually be released into the wild? Would probably be hard on them. Many would probably be slaughtered to sell off as "the last real meat".

That's... A theory, pretty sure it's more that meat just tastes good though

I don't disagree with the fact that a lot of men obsessively eat meat and act like it is the only food worth eating is because of toxic masculine culture. I have met plenty of those type.

I do just want to add, in the context of this post, I think the motivation for the group being against meat eating is that it is a farming group, and I'm assuming, at least in some capacity, they represent animal farmers. They have a vested economic interest in stopping the push of lab grown meat. This is not me thinking they should, just thought I would point that out.

Like I said, my comment is not to take away from your post, just to add what I think is important context to the original post.

Nah that's real

Thats an interesting take. Most people don't eat meat specifically because its exploitative, they eat it because its easier (relatively) to get the needed nutrients through meat, and because its taste and texture are hard to replicate. Lab grown meat manages to do this (hopefully) without any exploitation.

Potatoes aren't even free so I doubt that is happening.

Cheaper food would be a good start, potatoes and rice are incredibly cheap foods.

Lab grown food is legitimately super expensive to make though.

At least in the US I'd say it's because the government pumps billions and billions in subsidies to the different farm sectors (70+ billion a year for beef alone). The products you mentioned don't get that funding and don't sell the volume either.

The tricky part of lab grown meat is you need to keep it from being infected.

Keep the factory perfectly sterile.

Any time a vat is colonised by fungi or bacteria or a virus its contents would have to be dumped and the equipment sterilised

That's going to be expensive.

It will need feedstock. It will produce waste CO2

Meanwhile a cow has an immune system and eats low quality grass.

Lab meat will not be able to compete with field grown meat

I was mostly thinking about taste and texture. I never even considered that the CO2 impact might be worse. That sucks.

Processed food isn't bad for you.. GMOs aren't bad for you.. that's the propaganda farmers use to keep you from making common sense choices.

"Processed" is anything that goes into a machine. You want your beef ground up? It's now processed. What's added in the processing is what you need to isolate and be weary of.

"Genetically Modified Organisms" includes bananas which have been selectively cultivated to provide more nutrition and reduce seed sizes. It's a result of intelligent agricultural practices to maximize food production and minimize inedible waste.

Plant based meat has been an incredible substitution for meat making it cruelty free without compromising much on taste or texture, if at all.

Lab grown is the next step, making genuine meat without slaughtering animals. I'm not aligned with PETA but I think an ideal future is one where we don't need to kill sentient life in order to have exactly what we do right now.

You can have your own opinion but at the very least be aware of the origin of your bias.

I just miss my wife

We've done SO much selective breeding to make our food hardier and more plentiful, that we now have so much that we're complaining about it not being pretty enough, or that the tomato that grows three fruits a year is slightly less tasty than the plant that might produce one, or not.

Honestly, it's a great time to be alive to eat stuff we couldn't even imagine a century ago.

That's partly because they fail to market it well. Meat alternatives never taste the same. Trying to replace beef or pork or chicken will always fail to entice people that already enjoy meat.

It's better described as a new meat with new recipe/cooking requirements. You wouldn't complain about how much the assumed pork ribs didn't taste right if I told you they were beef ribs. You'd agree, because you wouldn't expect them to taste the same.

I needed cheap protein that stores well for my disaster emergency plan and the best thing I found was peanuts. They can be stored for a long time before they spoil, they're cheap, high in protein, and easy to grow. They grow well in hot weather, so if you can't grow them where you live, wait a few years and climate change will fix that.