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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Japanese government and culture hates foreigner. Unless you or your parents have Japanese citizenship, you're going to have a hard time.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 22 hours ago

My experience as a tourist with Japanese friends...

Foreigners (like me) have a chip on our shoulders. That whole attitude of "Well guess they don't want my money" isn't really big there. Outside of Tokyo, foreigners get kicked out of places all the time. Often it's done politely to avoid embarrassment.

And a foreigner swinging around cash going, "Why can't I buy this" will quickly get a polite "It is not our way as Japanese", which really means "fuck off".

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm an atheist, ghosts scare me about as much as gods do. I would use the money I spend on rent now to build a geodesic dome house. They are easy to build. Put some solar panels on it and get grid electricity for backup. If there's a house, there is probably a well on the property already. I have permanent residency in Japan. I don't care if the neighbors are racist assholes. I don't interact with my neighbors in Tokyo; I wouldn't interact with the neighbors there either. Where can I find more houses like this? I want one.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

https://www.akiya-mart.com/explore

Let us know if you end up doing something like this, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be interested in how it turns out.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Because you have to pay taxes including the very incredibly expensive purchase tax and annual property tax. And you lack a visa.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Because Japanese visa will never allow for you to live there

You can get 180 days total per year in two sets of 90 so to live in this house you'd have to:

  1. live there for 3 months
  2. leave Japan
  3. live there for 3 more months
  4. leave Japan for 6 months and have someone look after your house.

This is no way sustainable not to mention as a tourist you wouldn't have access to anything that requires full residency which is very complicated.

You can get long term visa like education or business investment or work permit etc but those are really expensive and can be very hard to get.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think it's a good deal, You could've bought one in Detroit for $1

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 22 hours ago

Well spank my monkey.

There's a 4bd, 2bath with 2500sqft for nearing the price of the shed in Ops picture. https://www.zillow.com/detroit-mi/under-10000

[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a 3.5k shed with no utilities is probably why. Running power, gas and plumbing to that place would cost more than a town of houses.

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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 93 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Don't buy these old japanese houses, they're literally made of mud and sticks and have absolutely fuck all for insulation.

Living in nature is all fun and games until you're expected to sleep in 50 degree weather while your split unit struggles to keep your paper box of a bedroom cool.

Most of the time the closest hospital is like 2-3 hours away on a bus that only comes twice a day, so you better hope you never get in an accident cause the ambulance won't come for hours and your only other hope is the only other person in neighborhood: your 90 year old neighbor who you're not sure is even still alive.

Source: lived in one for multiple years.

Edit: also when I say old I mean as soon as 1995 Before they majorly overhauled the earthquake and insulation codes nationally

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

for $3k i'd buy it just for the land it sits on. who cares about the house

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[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Sounds perfect honestly.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’d die when the next big earthquake or landslide hits that home. Or when Sadako crawls out of your TV

[–] vane@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She's crawling out of my TV cuz she wants the D.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago

Someone somewhere just started rifling through their shadman archive.

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[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

With house prices that good, I can't afford not to die!

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The catch is that rural Japan is a a shithole rife with xenophobia, privacy violations, bullying, and problematic neighbors. And that's for ethnically Japanese people, so it's be way worse if you were actually a foreigner.

There's a reason why people in Japan try so hard to move away from rural areas into cities.

https://youtu.be/fjK1BkpOa8w

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What kind of privacy violations? Do the neighbors peek into your windows?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As others in this thread have said, buying a property in Japan doesn't extend your Visa or grant you residence in the country. This would be a waste of time if you didn't already have that lined up. However, there are countries that do. Some have what's called the Golden Visa program, or Investor/Real Estate Visa program (there are other names, but if you're doing a search, this should turn up decent results). Here's a list of some countries that do this, and the minimum amount you need to spend.

Portugal - Golden Visa Investment - €500,000 ($540k USD) or €350,000 ($380k USD) for lower population areas, or properties that need to be renovated Residency benefits - Residency permit for 5 years, with the opportunity to apply for permanent residency after that

Spain - Golden Visa Investment - €500,000 ($540k USD) Residency benefits - Residency permit for 1 year, renewable as long as you own the property, and you can apply for permanent residency after 5 years

Greece - Golden Visa Investment - €250,000 ($270k USD) Residency benefits - Residency permit for 5 years, renewable as long as you own the property, and you can apply for permanent residency after 7 years

Thailand - Thailand Elite Visa Investment - THB 1,000,000 (about $30k USD) for a 5 year Visa Residency benefits - Renewable every 5 years with no residency requirement

Ecuador - Investor Visa Investment - $42,500 in real estate Residency benefits - Grants you permanent residency

Malaysia - Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) Investment - RM 1 million (about $240k USD) in real estate Residency benefits - Grants you a 10 year renewable Visa

Philippines - Special Resident Retiree Visa Investment - $50k in real estate Residency benefits - Grants you permanent residency

When I was looking into bailing on the US, I made a Libre Office spreadsheet with like 70 countries and all this info plus a bunch of other personal requirements for what I was looking for, so some of it may be outdated. Hell, some of it may be straight up incorrect, so feel free to double check it.

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Portugal doesn't have a property based golden ticket visa as of October 2023 due to concerns that it was affecting real estate prices in cities like Lisbon and Porto. But you can still donate 250K euro in cash or invest 500K euro in a local business that leads to job creation (among a couple other investment options). Another option for Portugal is the D7 visa, which requires you to live in the country 6 months the year for 5 years, but requires foreign income of 10K euro per year. Either way, after 5 years, you're eligible to apply for citizenship.

[–] nodoze313@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info! I was unaware of the Spain and Portugal options, so looked it up.

Spain ended their program in January, with application deadline April 3.

Potugal ended their real estate version, but still has investment options.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That place is either haunted or home to some nature spirits. Either way thwy'll fuck you up.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

So I can live a real-life Studio Ghibli movie!?

[–] MrDrProfJimmy@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like having roommates

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

They're garbage spirits, but I guess there are some similarities.

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[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 210 points 2 days ago (42 children)
  • It's in bumfuck nowhere
  • I don't speak Japanese
  • Building it up to a modern living standard will be expensive
  • I'd have to move to Japan

Unsorted list of reasons why not from the top of my head

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 43 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I actually looked into that property once; there was no way it was going to happen for a number of reasons. I ended up buying a house in much better condition in another area.

I really need to do a video about the topic or something. There are many, many landmines with stuff like this. For a very TL;DR and assuming every single other thing is perfect: owning a home does not give you the right to spend any extra time in Japan nor grant a visa; you are on the hook for taxes, fees, septic maintenance (though the above property may have been a pit toilet; I don't remember), and other bills which will have to be paid from a Japanese bank account. There are also certain neighborhood association obligations, property maintenance, fire control, etc.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not all of us gaijin are tourists. I have permanent residency and I would love to find a cheap house far from the noise and smoke. Do you know where I can look up houses like this?

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 11 hours ago

I'd start by researching areas and find places you like the climate, vibe, future prospects, etc. from there, start with suumo then the akiya bank to get an idea. Next, go in person and spend a weekend there. See what exists that is NOT listed anywhere other thanaybr a sign in the yard (or not even listed but obviously not lived in).

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Essentially, there's usually good reason it was abandoned.

Additionally, houses in Japan aren't really built to last. Properties like these are usually bulldozed and rebuit when purchased.

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[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I'm sure you could find a cheap condemned shit hole in your nearest rural area too. That doesn't mean that it's a good deal.

It's so cheap because the current owner doesn't want to spend the money on demolishing the structure before selling vacant land. And if it is still available it is because no developer has looked at it and thought that they could make money on the flip.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 89 points 2 days ago (12 children)

There are way more complexities than meet the eye here.

Not the least of which: just buying property doesn't give you a way to extend a visa beyond the normal tourist period (usually 90 days per 6-month period). Japan ultimately is still an isolationist country, and it shows the most in its immigration policies.

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