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Afghanistan I can understand. America, the home of the antivaxx idiots, too. But Europe? There is a small community of antivaxxers here, who took this crazy idea from the US antivaxxers, but with far, far less idiots than the US has. Faith-based exceptions to mandatory vaccinations are not a thing in Europe, which massively curbs this idiocity from spreading. While this does not prevent minor outbreaks, this is much smaller of a problem than in the US.
Far right groups and constant Russian lies about vaccines have made plenty of Europeans antivaxers, sadly.
31,000 cases occured in Romania alone in 2024.
OK, Romania. Not far above Afghanistan, to be honest.
It is challenging to get good health information. My family has all completed the normal prescribed rounds of vaccines and are up to date. Do we need to seek boosters?
/facepalm
You know, back in the early days of the Internet, before it allowed commercial content, and before the Eternal September, I was excited at the notion of the democratization of information, and it being a multi-way conversation, not just top-down.
Say what you will about the days of having a few corporations gatekeeping virtually all info, at least back in those days I didn't see them spreading anti-vaccine horseshit.
Can you imagine travelling back a few centuries and telling people "I could protect my family from it but I choose not to"? They'd look at you like you had 2 heads
Only have to go back a few decades on measles:
The author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory lost his daughter to measles just before it was available as a vaccine....
The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.
He wrote this back in 1988 to address those that were hesitant to get vaccinated back then...I doubt he could have thought that Wakefield would come along later and help to completely fuck up everything.
Checked if I got the vaccine when I was a child, yesterday. I was vaccinated.
Get your vaccines if you can folks, not everyone can get it. Herd immunity is important for those who can't or have parents that are stupid (sorry) enough not to let their child get it.
Edit: Clarified that I was vaccinated already.
You can also check immunity if you get a blood test. As we age, some people will have less immunity. One of thesny reasons herd immunity is so important.
"Fun" story, I got my MMR 3x as a kid and another 3x as an adult because my antibody titers were and remain undetectable (i'm not immunocompromised on any level). With the current events I really hope my T-cells are ready for the heavy lifting 😅
Of course, according to RFK Genius, I'd need lower doses not higher because "race".
Ok, I just asked this further but as an adult should I be seeking boosters? If I live in a deeply red state, will my doctor balk at the request?
You can request your titers to be checked (pretty routine) and if they are low/undetectable you can get a booster. That's what they do for healthcare workers (at least in the 3 states I practiced in).
Did you get the vaccine when you were a child?
Yes
Oh good, can't tell if you meant you have measles now or have the vaccine.
Diseases say fuck your borders.
Make it make sense
The ruling class (billionaires and oligarchs) have weaponized people's religion, fear and ignorance into a way to keep everyone corralled and subservient. This outbreak is an unintended side effect of the manipulation.
What do you mean "side effect?" The head of the health board is telling people not to get vaccinated, and to take vitamins instead. This isn't a side effect, it's entirely intentional.
That explains the US, but doesn't explain Europe or Afghanistan...
Well the problem is the side effects are also in power now too. And so are easily manipulated by the rich but also really fucking stupid.
Full article is behind a paywall. Fuck scientific publishing.