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[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Do you not have the ability to take a vote of no confidence in the US? Or are you.just stuck with it for 4 years and he can do whatever?

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

They have an impeachment process which they tried a few years back twice but didn't work. It is like black magic, a whole lot of mumbo jumbo for literally nothing.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

Impeachment doesn't seem like it actually does anything. It's like an official slap on the wrist.
Maybe the laws were written back when politicians had a sense of shame and they just assumed that an impeached president would resign.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago

Exactly.

The US system has bunch of things that don’t have explicitly defined penalties, because just the act itself was so shameful that it itself was the punishment.

But now they have a president with zero shame and zero morals - the processes don’t work.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I hope this doesn’t sound too insane given that currently this is “good news” or at least good metrics for us: But I often worry about using the stock market as a metric for anyone notable.

For instance, I picture a future where a politican pushes hard for increases to minimum wage…and the stock market tanks because “free labor is ruined”. There are some bubbles where it really should tank and I just worry that we’d be excusing it then, and now now.

Granted: It is my belief that there’s no bubbles now and that Biden handed us a working system - one that Trump is throwing wrenches into. I just think after the GME fiasco, we shouldn’t necessarily trust the stock market as a perfect system run by level-headed people.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I suppose what I see here is a way of describing the result of what I think we all know the cause is. Yes it's a small glimpse of an incomplete picture, and shouldn't stand up to debate by itself - but it stands with the backdrop of all Trump's public aggression to friendly countries.

[–] pubquiz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I wish every magat in the world would realize what a significant marker this is!!!

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 60 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If conservatives could comprehend numbers, they'd be real upset.

[–] AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

How mean, if they could read, they'd be pissed...

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

if they could read at all they'd blame biden for an education plan, giving no credit to michelle oabama

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

I think they would demand data from the first term.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago

Would be interested in seeing the full 4 year terms as well

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

They should've added Trump 2016 too, dunno what would it look like but omitting stuff isn't great

[–] ralakus@lemmy.world 61 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Even then, built up some hype then just stagnated, vs a continuous steady growth

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I know it's standard, but the y-axis is shifted significantly. This representation makes the numbers look a lot more severe than reality.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So even with less dementia in 2016 Trump still couldn't beat a Democrat.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

However the economic devastation is gonna last decades...

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I thought you had drawn it in with a sharpie. Lol

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I remember how a webstream of a lettuce was set up for Liz and she got kicked out faster than the lettuce on the webstream became rotten.

[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We need to start a trump lettuce stream!

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Needs to be an orange, surely.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 162 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

You know, personally, I don't think the rumours of Trump being an active foreign agent instead of "just" a narcissist grifter are useful, because they can be used to argue that things weren't already pretty borked before in the status quo.... (and I think they are wrong, personally)

But I do have to admit - if I was a foreign agent wanting to destroy the US and its influence in the world, I would basically do exactly what he is doing.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 134 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

My college degree focused on the collapse of the USSR and the US diplomatic response to it. I studied a lot of Soviet and Russian foreign policy. If Donald Trump is not a Russian asset he weirdly backs every single position you would expect a Russian asset to have.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 43 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

refusing to speak negatively of Putin in front of millions during the debate should've been a pretty clear wakeup call

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

"He's a good man, strong man" and every red hat cheered. You dumb mother fuckers.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

He's in Putin's pocket for sure. You remember the closed door meeting with him and Putin his first time in office? Putin came out looking smug af and Trump looked like he'd just seen the ghost of his dead dad. Trump was best mates with Epstien and famously can't keep it his pants. My bet is that Putin has footage of him fucking a minor and is threatening to release it unless Trump toes the line.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 2 hours ago

Dude, the Venn diagram of the states in which it's legal to marry a minor and those in which Trump won is probably just a circle

[–] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 13 hours ago

Honestly, given the cult-like obsession of Trump followers, I can't even imagine a video like that making much of an impact on them. Sadly...

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

I think he's inept, stupid, and doesn't have a plan or idea about what he's doing. Tariffs, eg, are the polar opposite of what he claims.

His puppeteers, however? They're just letting him run wild, destroying everything he touches, because they have the wherewithall to withstand the damage.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Obama 2013 doesn’t really make any sense. He was already president, so nothing changed. 2009 is probably much worse cause of Bush’s recession.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 39 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's important to note that Trump is responsible for what's happening. While Obama was given the financial crisis on his lap because of things out of his immediate control.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, other presidents have ups and downs and usually it's nearly a coincidence, good luck or bad on their part.

Trump absolutely is responsible for current economic conditions, with no ambiguity.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

100%. Neither is a good comparison, really. Trump 2017 vs Trump 2025 might be the best comparison. But that also implies he was responsible for 2017, which he wasn’t.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Obama 2009 looks about the same, maybe a bit stronger over 100 days. The market collapse happened in the final months of the Bush presidency, and it was just about at the bottom as Obama came into office.

To have a number as bad as Trump II, you have to go back to Bush's first term (in general the Bush graph is pretty bad, barely managing to make it back up to break-even for a few months before the 2008 collapse).

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[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

For anybody that's interested, it looks like the source of this visualization is sort of this Reddit post on r/dataisbeautiful.

At the very least, it's OC of the same numbers, but slightly different layout.

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Gotta love how the mods locked that post 😂 Reddit is such a cesspool

[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for the source

[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 66 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

I’ve never seen a graph so metaphorically and literally apt.

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 50 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I realize the title is rhetorical, but just a reminder that AB not only reversed their support for the Bud Light campaign after just a few weeks of fascist bigot whining, they also fired the advertising manager responsible.

All over a single can of beer.

You probably can't buy beer regularly without giving them some of your money, but let's not forget what spineless cowards they are. (Just like Target.)

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[–] AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Lucifer the fallen angel...

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