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Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

One single HUMAN cell, everyone knows humans are above all animals

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 78 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

If you're really being serious, then the answer is that most (or, at least, the vocal majority) of those people don't even really care about living children. I don't see that type of person generally giving any more care to a non-human being than they would a human being, and they already don't care about people other than themselves.

"Pro-life" has always been a misnomer. More honest descriptions would be "anti-choice" or "pro-forced birth."

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

It's anti-woman.

The real true reason most people are against abortion isn't because they don't believe it's a necessity. It's because they are afraid that some woman won't be punished for having sex. Whether or not the fetus survives isn't the point, it's that someone has to be punished for enjoying life.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

Pro-life

In their mind, is still just breeding more cheap disposable labor

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 6 points 22 hours ago

Serious in that they should stand up for non-human animals, but in the kind of way where you also know the answer as to why 99% aren't

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It's racism. They think human lives are more important than other races.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 2 points 4 hours ago

The human race thinks they're the supreme race, better than the other races.

[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It is so prevalent that this type of bigotry actually has its own name: specieism

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

beat me to it (by only 11h :D)

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Yes, exactly. The complexity of the human soul is uncomparable to the basic impulses of any animal.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Where exactly in the single cell is the soul stored?

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Embryos don't have souls. The soul develops during the third trimester.

If you can play music into your belly and get a kick, that thing has a soul. But there's a lot of time where it's not that developed.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

A single cell

[–] FruitLips@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

Says what, some ancient text?

[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Definitely seems the type to make Star Wars analogies

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But that's different!

Honestly though, is "but it's different" a proper informal fallacy?

[–] PigStyle@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Some of them explain this away with "Humans have souls, animals don't".

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

And yet many can be up in arms about dogs & cats being eaten in some regions despite that claim

[–] amon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I don't care what species it is

I have three requirements for meat:

  • It isn't human flesh
  • It isn't rotten
  • It's cooked properly
[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

dogs go to dog heaven, duh
of they got souls! /s

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently that soul doesn't matter when trying to prevent it from dying from preventable diseases with vaccines and nurturing it with affordable education.

[–] Glytchrider@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Don't you know it's much more preferable for your child to die of a preventable illness than for them to get autism from vaccines which is totally a thing that happens?

/s of course

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

When I infodump for 2 hours straight I can see why they would prefer if I died /s

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

It's even worse. One of the contributing factors for autism is fine dust particles in pollution from fossil fuels. And the ones against vaccines are often also the ones for fossil fuels.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They are pro-birth. They are absolutely not pro-life.

[–] celeste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I think they're anti-woman.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 points 12 hours ago

That explains the obsession with cows' milk...

Anytime someone throws a fit about noncows milk being called milk, "Like, you know why they produce milk, right?"

[–] ookiiBoy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

Think? We fucking know.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah but if babies were delicious we would eat them too

[–] stray@pawb.social 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm told humans taste like pork.

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Some cultures that actually have cannibalism refer to human flesh as "long pig" or similar because of the resemblance.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Is this implying you know for certain that human babies aren't? Maybe we should be a little concerned how you figured that one out

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So I ate a baby big whoop wanna fight about it?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago

Baby Big Whoop? Damn there's a whole product line now?

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've got a modest proposal for you...

[–] Glytchrider@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago

I wanted to say that but wasn't swift enough.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?

hunting and eating steaks, singing

This is necessary, life feeds on life feeds on life...

I think that being vegan/vegetarian is more ethical than eating meat due to the use of resources, treatment of animals etc.

But this kind of dumbass shit doesn't help your cause.

[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand your stance. Being vegan is more ethical, but eating meat is necessary? Surely if meat is necessary then an omnivorous diet is most ethical?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

the song is meant to be what the conception people think, but...

it is necessary for certain people, and it's easier to achieve certain things by eating meat/animal products. I am an omnivore, but I understand that veganism is more ideal, I just don't have the capability of achieving it (I can't even eat properly on an omnivore diet).