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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26024422

Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As long as one of them wins idc. If one of them loses the seat in the house then this is gonna be the fuck around found out portion.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 138 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

GOOD.

Pelosi has been in congress for 36 years. To put this in perspective, that's longer than I've been voting. Time to retire.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 week ago (10 children)

To put it further in perspective, Nancy Pelosi isn't a boomer. She's silent generation.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Stick to Chinese astrology or the Mayan calendar, at least they're entertaining.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No matter, your view on her, it really is time to retire, she is 84.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Meh, I know I'm in the minority here, but I'd rather it was based on merit and policy positions.

I DGAF about someone's age as long as they are still fit and they have the right policies. Assuming someone like AOC stays in until she's 84 and shows no sign of moving to the right and no sign of slowing down?

Going forward, I think we will very likely have even OLDER politicos than we do now, assuming breakthroughs on slowing down aging, even age reversal. Of course, that assumes that Bronzo the Clown and fElon and Brainwormz don't completely break our system of innovation and healthcare. But if it doesn't happen here, it will happen in other countries...so I don't think the ageism we see right now will itself age all that well...

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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was time to retire 20 years past. It’s time to give back all the money she stole from her communities with all the insider trading bullshit.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC’s former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.

Fuck yes they do!

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I don't have much hope in the voters. Last time a great challenger came along, Shahid Buttar in 2020, they still elected the geriatric choice. The DNC and Dem voters are the fucking worst. I mean, as long as you pretend the racist, fascist, ignorant, magats on the other side of the aisle don't exist.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago

You would think that the Democrat's consistent record of utter failure would count for something, but I think it has the opposite effect. The worse things get, the more insecure people feel. Insecurity makes voters risk-averse. Republicans capitalize on that with calls for a return to an American that never really existed. Democrats capitalize on it by making Democratic voters scared of new leadership.

I try to explain it with AIDS as an example. AIDS is a horrible disease, but it doesn't kill you. It just sets you up to die from another opportunistic infection like pneumonia. The fascists are pneumonia, and the neoliberals are AIDS. It's the fascism that kills you, but it's the neoliberalism that was the underlying cause that should have been dealt with.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Democrats need a vision, period.

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

SF is incredibly liberal, I could absolutely see Nancy losing and finally being forced to retire. Just gotta get people out to vote during the Primary.

Pelosi was elected when she was 41-42. Saikat Chakrabarti is 39, so only a couple years younger than when Pelosi was put into Congress. This is the perfect time for her to be forced to retire.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

SF is incredibly liberal

That's the problem: Liberal = Neoliberal ≠ Left

The rich people who control just about everything LOVE her because her corruption enriches them as it enriches her and her stock broker husband.

The population in general, though? Probably much more progressive than Pelosi and will hopefully be heard this time.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A leftist needs to pull a reverse fetterman to get elected.

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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago

Good! Fuck that old hag

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They do need a bolder vision.

The older vision is just MAGA-esque billionaire worshipping without the racism.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Hopefully a win can gain the democrats some momentum. Pelosi has been around way too long.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.

The exception that rule is someone like Ricky Henderson who just really openly and unselfishly liked playing baseball and played in the minor leagues for fun. He just kept playing baseball until he was 46: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hender003ric

I respect that. It was like weekend slow pitch for him.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.

She's already that.

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