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Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bernie has a very strong Brooklyn accent which is why the R turns to aw, but either pronunciation is totally fine.

[–] freamon@preferred.social 31 points 1 year ago

No, you're right. It's just how it sounds with Sanders' distinct accent.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some east coast areas, like where Sanders is from, inherited non-rhoticity from England. The β€œr” is pronounced in most US accents.

[–] tazzy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey cool thanks for this! Love learning about language and have never even heard this term before , or I guess as Bernie would say β€œI have Nevah even head of this tem befoe” lol

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wetstew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'll also toss A Way with Words on the pile too. It's a long running NPR-adjacent radio show/podcast about linquistics.

My favorite was a dive they did on the descriptor "like a dead preacher" to refer to an annoying awkward thing to move.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago

Bernie Sanders can pronounce it however the fuck he wants, with as thick of a brooklyn accent as he wants.

He has earned at least that much lol

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 16 points 1 year ago

The further NE you go in the US the more non-rhotic the dialect becomes, more or less.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

You say to mah to, I say to may to... we both agree that we need to tear down this unjust vegetal system and sing Les Marseilles while we do it.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

Most words will sound different every few miles. There are countless regional accents, meaning there is no right or wrong. I'm northern Irish and I say mir instead of mirror. It's wrong but it's not wrong, if you know what I mean.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

You are correct. It is le garky not la garky. But Bernie does not follow the norms of gendered language.

You should hear how us mountain folk pronounce it.

Awl-uh-garky, or all-uh-gurky are the two most common at my shooting club (and yes, left wing shooting clubs exist in the south, even here in the sticks).

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you never heard of an accent before?

[–] tazzy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I haven’t. Up until I read these replies on Lenny I had no idea it was a thing. TIL

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm going to assume you're not being sarcastic here. Aren't there accents in France?

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

I’ve been pronouncing it all-e-glucky

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The second vowel is an unstressed "i". In most varieties of English, since it is unstressed, we pronounce it as a schwa, which sounds roughly like "uh".

If you'd like to articulate that syllable, like you might do in French, then pronounce it like the "i" in "sit". That's completely optional.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

oh, it's garlicky

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't oligarchy a loan word from the French language? Or like, if not a loan word I'm sure it at least has French etymology