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FDA scientists have been instructed to avoid using words like "woman," "disabled," and "elderly" in external communications, per a leaked list circulating within the agency.

The directive, reportedly linked to Trump’s executive order against "gender ideology," has caused confusion and concern.

The White House denies most words are banned but confirms restrictions on terms related to gender and diversity.

Scientists fear these limits will hinder medical research and public health efforts.

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[–] StandStillLaddie@lemmy.world 110 points 2 months ago

I assume "raping women" and "making fun of the disabled" are still ok. Fascist fuck.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey you know who else made a list of banned words?

Hitler.

Hitler made a list of band words.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

No one that has ever banned an education have ever been the good guys.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

almost as if terfism and gender criticism is just thinly veiled misogyny and women hating politics

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

"Am I out of touch?" The irony was lost on TERFs ever since they were applauded by anti-abortion christian and white nationalists and nazis, and they still went "No, it is the trans that are profoundly misogynist".

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sorry but just because this mentions FDA this has nothing to do with science. This is an article about politics and bigotry. Real science is happening elsewhere and it’s unfortunate it probably won’t come from the US.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 months ago

We could say that science is under attack (see following sources). In this case, it belongs.


Can we agree that:

  1. Science is under attack.
  2. Weaponized cisgenderism is science denialism at this point.
  3. Free speech absolutism is a trope to suppress all freedom except for white supremacist rhetoric.
  4. The attacks are not limited to trans but also cis women, including cis women scientists.
  5. Trans rights stem from a complex set of fundamental freedoms, and opposing them is profoundly fascist.


If anyone does not agree, ex post facto, with the above points is a literal nazi apologist at this point, and can go debate if FElon's salute was nazi or not. I don't have the time of day for this though.

Can we further agree that scientists must be in the social and ideological avant-garde and opposing fascism, like Einstein did?

Then we see at a time that science is under attack, in the context of a petrifying fascist power grab from anti-vax charlatans, and in the name of science innocent people are vilified and persecuted, that the relevance of these developments ought to be front and center to all science-related communities, much like this once were:


Because this more or less shows the fossil fuel interests that are behind all this.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Well let's just say I'd have rather been in the control of the American Experiment.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so we can use Talking Rib and Cripple instead?

[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My friend is a proposal manager for a non-profit. She had to advise some of her scientists to use 'non-man person' for a proposal for a grant to study breast cancer. I wish I were joking

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How this continues to be ok with Americans is beyond me. Change stops on an individual level. Your friend should have called bullshit then and there and refuse to use non-man person. Over 50% of the goddamn population is a non-man person.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Distractions. There are a lot of them and most of us are replying to the distractions with emotional messages and Hitler/nazi-musk memes instead of doing our due diligence to find out what's going on and how we can stop it. The memes, they do nothing but give us the sense of camaraderie without direction or objective. And any time you tell the people making them that, they get mad and block you or downvote you.

[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I propose dividing people into penised people and penisless people. I'm sure vagina is banned too but I can't remember

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Once again, those 7 million or so asshats that didn't vote for Kamala because of 'GeNoCiDe JoE', this is on you.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But not the 75 million fascists

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Them too. Both are equally to blame.

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[–] o_arguido@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

When you keep having to vote for the lesser evil for so long, you get Trump.

Democrats were a lesser evil and that wasn't enough.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

bro is getting insecure about his age

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody realizes that all of these outrageous headlines, quotes and ideas of Trump are just distractions from his actual agenda. He's intentionally flooding the media with this kind of stuff.

This headline in particular is completely irrelevant in the grand sceme of things. So is most other things. Like him saying he's going to own Gaza. Was never going to happen. It's just a distraction and everyone is falling for it again and again.

I learned to ignore most of what Trump is doing and only pay attention to the important stuff that usually ranks second in the news behind this kind of stuff.

[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Increasing the power of the executive branch in line with Unitary Executive Theory and following the Project 2025 playbook through Elon to gut social services across the board. He will be the dictator of the country when they're done, with no regulatory agency power to stop the full fascist takeover.

All the money they saved by cutting these essential programs that literally keep people alive (in the US and around the world) and from homelessness will be sent to the rich through tax cuts. It's all very obvious, but since they're hurting nonwhite people the most, hardly anyone who voted for him sees what's happened.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean I feel like we're paying attention to that too? I mean we can read more than one kind of article in a day. Everything you said seems pretty well understood to me

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure, we understand it. We're getting non-algorithmic news that isn't covered in sports or celebrity bullshit. The average American, I assure you, doesn't know anything about this stuff. Most of the people I talk to in regular life about this stuff haven't even heard of project 2025. Did you see how many people googled "did Biden drop out?" on election day?

The average person is poorly informed and dumbass stuff like -Red White And Blueland- or -turn Gaza into the Riviera of the middle east- are what they hear about, if even that. These, while horrifying, are the distractions to the real game of dictatorship and wealth transfer to the richest of the rich.

Whether you call it "flood the zone" or "firehose of bullshit" it's what they're doing and it's working very well.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some women voted to be enslaved. This says a lot about our society and where we should work on.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You have seen them wear I want to be grabbed by the pussy shirts? Words have become meaningless to them.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can’t wait until a stroke puts him in a wheelchair and he has to eat McDonalds through a straw.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Better if the stroke puts him 6ft under.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“What is a [REDACTED]?”

[–] zombieshotgun@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

“A miserable pile of [REDACTED]!”

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

The only allowed words are "straight", "white", "Christian" and "man".

[–] xiao@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

I still can't understand how people have been able to elect this guy...

[–] gnome@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

How are they supposed to refer to a woman then? ~wo~MAN?

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 months ago

Presumably "femoids" or some other 4chan coinage.

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] vivi@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure the lists I've seen circulating also ban the word female... which is so bizarre

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They aren't.

Anyone other than nondisabled cis hetero white males is irrelevant.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

More Project 2025 and Nazi crap coming from the Government of Putin.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That is some straight up Freudian shit

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[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

So the Trump Bible should be changed to Adam and Adam.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

Person Man Camera TV

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The fragile snowflake might have a breakdown...

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 2 months ago

That's because the Orange Jackass wants the government to use asshole-approved words, like "bitch," "cripple," and "decrepit."

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

restrictions on terms related to gender and diversity

LMAO

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