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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 286 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Ya know......as much as I hated Bush in his day, he was never a nazi. I called him a LOT of things over the years.....but I never remember calling him a nazi.

How the fuck are we living in a timeline where a president who used a terrorist attack as justification for invading countries that never had anything to do with it, is now looked at as "he wasn't so bad...."

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 173 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Bush is a war criminal, lied to the American people, and contributed to the pathway that created trumpism.

He's not a Nazi. But he's not a good guy either.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

His grandpa was though.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/02/25/the-business-plot-did-american-billionaires-plan-a-fascist-coup/

And his dad HW ran the CIA for a while.

Pardoned a good number of Iran Contra CIA people when he was President.

... And seems to have been working for or with the CIA for many years before he became director.

https://www.salon.com/2019/01/25/the-real-reason-the-cia-loved-george-h-w-bush_partner/

Zapata Oil was run by HW Bush... and very much seems to have been a CIA front company, assisting with many 'kinetic' operations in Cuba and Latin America.

... And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, a whole bunch of people connected to Watergate, the Bay of Pigs... and JFK's assasination... are also linked to Zapata Oil...

... and HW himself was noted by J Edgar Hoover as working for the CIA, in 1963, way before HW ever admitted he worked for/with the CIA, in an official FBI memo investigating the assasination.

https://headlineusa.com/records-implicate-george-h-w-bush-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/us/63-fbi-memo-ties-bush-to-intelligence-agency.html

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the preceding years laundering his reputation and presidency has been maddening. His war crimes, foreign policy on essentially everything, domestic policy on education, carceral systems, tax reform, and the border should have him in solitary at The Hague for the rest of his life. The man is truly a monster, and walks among the nazis today. He's still a republican, so whether or not he's a nazi is perhaps an academic debate only.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago

He paved the path for a Nazi

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

He was a fascist. He was always a fascist and his "War on Terror" laid the ground work for our current situation.

His presidency is when I first saw the Signs of Fascism.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

Yup, it’s when patriots and flags on cars took a nasty turn. Let’s not forget about Dock Cheney either. O matter what his daughter has tried to do to change that name, Bush and Dick belong in the Hauge.

Trump belongs in an orange jumpsuit and Musk belongs in South Africa, locked in a compound hiding from the world.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let’s be real, the best part of Bush Junior was Sam Rockwell playing him in Vice.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What about Matt Stone and Trey Parker’s classic That’s My Bush?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

So you just aren't aware of the "PATRIOT [sic] Act" at all, huh?

Bush signing that into law was the moment I knew Bin Laden had won.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Bush lied about WMDs to kill millions of people and steal their oil. He is not Hitler but he is not far. It will take more than a sieg to surpass Bush.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 132 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

My dearly departed gramps would agree. Man was on the ground walking across France and Germany on a mission to free concentration camps. He wouldn’t describe it in any further detail than that, ever, but he would shut down any murmur of racism. Silence a room shut down.

We lack that now which is why hx is coming back around again.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it’s interesting* that as soon as everyone with a firsthand account of Nazis dies, Nazism comes roaring back. It’s as though there’s no generational memory in society.

*not to imply it’s good, it’s horrifying.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s so sad that we are going to get this costly lesson again. It would be better if the guillotines came out, rather than panzer tanks.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 113 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago

Man, that one was so much worse than I remembered. I thought it was just part of a wider gesture, but that heil and the wave that came afterward are clearly two different emotes

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Close, but trump does have his hand vertical enough to be a legitimate wave.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They're just saying it doesn't count as two because Trump's doesn't really count. The one on the bottom left is absolutely a Nazi salute.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 64 points 2 months ago (8 children)

My heart goes out to the American people

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 21 points 2 months ago

kind of a meme, because that's what they're claiming the gesture means.

also kinda not.

stay safe and organise.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please convert that into our preferred crisis currency, Thoughts and Prayers(tm)

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bannon is white fucking trash anyway. Not just saying that because he looks like human excrement but because he has the personality of a roasted maggot.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

His physical appearance suggests alcohol.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

He looks like he smells like one too.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Surely them doing the Nazis salute counts as cultural appropriation. The right-wing German should be complaining about it. They need to come up with their own salutes

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Hey! That's our thing!

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Didn't we used to do the nazi salute for the pledge of allegience before ww2? I remember reading it somewhere but also FUCK NAZIS

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

The pledge itself is already nazi bullshit.

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

There's only one kind of good nazi. We should strive to make them all like that.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Second?

The first and second happened on the same stage within 5 second of each other

[–] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 2 months ago

And that was hardly the first...

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (5 children)

This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic...

Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of "the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi".

I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm usually not a fan of zero tolerance policies, but I make an exception for Nazi shit.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

It was enough of a Nazi salute for the head of France's far-right party, who are Nazis, to cancel his planned speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

The difference is Bannon knows what he's doing, while Ellonie is a moron.

Bannon did it just half-heartedly enough to throw doubt into it when asked. Elon tried his best.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

I was hesitant at first, but like. What the hell else is he doing? He isn't gesturing to emphasize something he's saying, he isn't waving at anyone, he isn't addressing the crowd. Literally the only thing it can reasonably be is a heil.

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[–] IDew@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why exactly are we repeating history

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 27 points 2 months ago

This is what happens when you systematically destroy the education system.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

At least 3rd

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

Flabby white guys barely able to raise their arms.

Bannon’s not used to lifting his hand past his juandice tinged liver lips.

Elon so fucking out of shape he actually gasped for air and grunted.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Do we have a video of this?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Made this handy gif earlier but was too lazy to post it

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[–] zib@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I hear if we can get a third before the end of the month, those egg prices will start tumbling!

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