this post was submitted on 16 Feb 2025
442 points (99.6% liked)

politics

20359 readers
3104 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I feel like people forgot that this was the compromise.

If they'd like us to go back to dragging the boss out of his home in the middle of the night and beating him to death in front of his family I'm cool with that.

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 4 days ago

get luigi a 1up

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I keep thinking of the scene in Far and Away where they torch the manor house.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, wow.

That went after the cops, too.

That was really fucking stupid of them, you reward your foot soldiers just well enough to make them trust the system enough to defend it with their lives against their own class.

You let the cop "union" thrive and they'll kick every teacher to death on their overtime pay with gusto.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Probably don't have to pay them, they'll do it for free.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 118 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He included police unions? He's fucked. Republican voters don't give a crap about teachers or firefighters, but he messed with the cops that they vehemently pretend to support.

[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 79 points 6 days ago (5 children)

They originally tried to exempt police unions but were told that would be too blatantly illegal and the whole thing would be struck down, so they did this instead.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago

My money is the police unions will just ignore this; or even more on brand, they'll invent some new with that just means collective bargaining, but only for police.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

that would be too blatantly illegal

Unlike 90% of the other shit they're doing...

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

General strike from teachers, firefighters and police it is, then.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Don't count on cops for solidarity, even with something this blatant.

[–] randoot@lemmy.world 86 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The ruling class forgets how the unions were the compromise to allow them to keep their heads attached to their bodies

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 days ago

I don't think they've forgotten. They're just confident that the culture war trap they've built will keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves.

[–] danny801@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Americants won't do anything about it

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Well, there was this one guy recently...

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] icmpecho@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

would be a shame if EMS were slow to respond to an emergent need for medical care for one Utah governor. why did they think this was a good idea??

[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's now how this works. Time to beat the Governor to death.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I love picturing this being said matter of factly from a husband to a spouse over morning coffee.

"Oh no, well that's now how this works at all... Time to beat the Governor to death, dear. Well, off I go for the day, see you at dinner"

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Time for these cretins to get a history lesson first hand on why there are labor laws in this country. Why there is a forty hour work week. Why there is collective bargaining. Why its keeping them(the management) alive.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The police certainly had this coming, although I now feel very bad for firefighters and teachers in Utah

They're going to privatise all three.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 60 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that's striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who's going to be there to pick up the reigns?

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

That's the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 42 points 5 days ago

They should strike anyways.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 51 points 5 days ago

Unions, collective bargaining and striking were illegal, to begin with. People actually skipped work and meals to strike, form unions, and radically protest to give us these things. Before pto, unemployment insurance, and social safety nets existed.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 57 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Isn't that functionally banning unions altogether? Collective bargaining is the whole purpose of a union...

Not familiar with American union laws, but that's protected federally is it not? (aside from the fact that this administration isn't 'protecting' anything, let alone unions)

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Given the current political climate nothing is illegal.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If we can't bargain legally I suppose we just need to remind them why they gave us a legal option for union organization in the first place.

Before unions, it was the style at the time to go to the boss and ask for a raise by saying “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”

Just a reminder 🥰

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Don't worry the Federal government will step .... Oh they just crippled the agency that prevents this. How convenient.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/business/nlrb-trump-musk-workers/index.html

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Banning police unions is a no brainer.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Banning police unions is a no brainer.

they're downright fucking evil, a hideous example of what a union should be doing. they protect the worst of the worst and keep the city and force paying for their bullshit. and they show no solidarity to other unions.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Union prevent heads in sticks, time for heads on sticks

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let the buildings burn down. Firefighters don’t have to use a union to show why the working class is the real source of power.

Make sure to clearly advertise the dates of the strike. So we can be especially cautious on those days. Especially around government buildings. That would just be awful and unfair if the people that passed the ban were directly affected.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 36 points 6 days ago

Wow…this is gonna make America so great

[–] JamieSTL@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly surprised by cops being included in this. Wonder if that will bring major backlash in such a conservative state.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Narrator: it won't. They are too far gone with the indoctrination. They'll lament and get back in line, to cheer for the next one who got fucked that isn't them

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

My only surprise is they didn’t add nurses and doctors after that show of force went down, state wide, in Oregon this year.

load more comments
view more: next ›