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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And yet they couldn't find the pocket change to keep the Unreal Tournament master servers up and games listed.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Okay, but any significant plans to make the launcher or store itself worth using?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wondering the same... just last week i found out you cannot view your library in the web browser, only your transactions. Even after all this time.

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

It has to be 100% on purpose to make you get the launcher. I tried to check out my EA games, and a forum post said they used to have it on the web, but not anymore.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Free games are pure marketing. Don't confuse it.

They can take them away at their whim.

Their sole purpose is to get you used to using Epic over other services.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I get into one of the Epic giveaway games sometimes but the launcher always feels like an obstacle rather than an asset. It's not software I enjoy using.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Use Heroic

And try launching games directly because it might be drm free

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Don't forget you can always backup and store all your games, the EULA companies make you sign don't substitute the laws: if they are selling you stuff, if the use the word "buy"... they either owe you a product or they are lying.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Pressing "Launch" is the same whether you're in Epic or Steam. I have like 40 games on epic and I've paid them exactly $0. In the same time I spent quite a bit on Steam. It's hard to see what value Epic is getting out of me from this.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

The goal is very simple, it's to get you to use Epic. The reason people buy their games on Steam is because people effectively have Steam start on boot. It's the default because "all" your games are there. You use gog or EA app or Ubisoft connect only if there's something that's not on Steam and you boot them up specifically to that one game.

So if you're Epic and you want to compete with Steam how do you do that? You grow the user's library to make sure they start up Epic instead of Steam and you get them in the habit of logging in. Both are accomplished by giving our free games.

It's probably not effective on the old timers who have 100+ games on Steam, but people like me are not the target audience. It's aimed at younger people who don't have a huge steam library and can't really afford to buy a lot of games.

Tldr: Epic is giving away free games to become the default store for the next generation of gamers.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's an argument for Epic: Their international pricing is WAY better than Steam's. By what I gather, Epic is the go-to for many who live in low-income countries.

On the other side, their app still lags behind Steam by miles. For whatever unknown reason.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never realized it before but you're right, in my country the games are 50% cheaper on the Epic Store than they are in Steam!

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Exact same regional pricing in my country, no idea what you guys are talking about

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm in a small Caribbean island, the steam price has always been the same price as the US price, which is very expensive compared to the average salary on the island.

So basically no regional pricing for us in the Caribbean.

On the other hand the epic store does have regional pricing for us more in line with the average salary which make the games 50% cheaper than steam.

Here is the steam price for Rimworld Steam price for Rimworld: $34.99

Here is the Epic Game price for Rimworld Epic game price for Rimworld: $14.39

I checked other games and it's similar.

Edit: I wish I was wrong because I'm only playing in Linux so I would really prefer buying games from Steam but now I'm seriously considering buying the games from the Epic Store, it sucks.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Because it's not just about you. Even if just 1% of people decide "Huh, I wonder what else is on there", hell even .01%, it's a win for them.

It's not about big gains, it's about attrition.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Epic gave away nearly 600 million ~~games~~ licenses in 2024

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

True of everyone other than GoG on that front, if we're being honest.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even GoG says straight up that they are only selling you a licence. The fact that they allow you to download installers for games, updates and dlc is heads and tails above everyone else, but if they close shop and you forget to download the installers, you're in the same boat as if you'd got those games on steam or epic.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Luckily that boat can also be steered to the high seas.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

I mean, sure, but I'd argue that is a totally separate boat. The boat we're talking about is the "paying money to not own something, even if you get a download that can potentially be stored indefinitely" boat, not the "maybe pay for an internet connection unless your neighbour didn't password protect their WiFi, and don't pay for anything that all comes as downloads that can be potentially stored indefinitely" boat....

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And they can take them away in a second

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, the same is true of Steam, even with purchased games. We don't own anything but a licence.

https://www.thegamer.com/steam-digital-game-ownership-licence-disclaimer/

Conclusion: GOG > Steam/Epic

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Conclusion: GOG > Steam/Epic

How much do they pay you?

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-GOG-User-Agreement?product=gog

2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'license') to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This license is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this license in some situations, which are explained later on.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but platforms like GOG and Humble Bundle often provide the actual DRM free software which can be installedd independently of their platform and license.

Steam and Epic are not like that. Steam typically requires us to use its launcher to play games, as they are tied to our Steam accounts. Epic sometimes actually allows one to directly access the game files. Of course, the level of DRM can vary depending on the specific game and developer.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Worth noting that Steam does not enforce the use of its DRM. Like Epic, its up to developers to add it.

As for installing games after the services ends, I'd be curious to know if any have specified what happens to game licences at that point. Obviously, if the licence is revoked, continuing to play it is piracy, but if these services close, are the licences revoked? I couldn't find anything matching in the Steam or GOG terms of service.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

They took rocket league off steam. Well actually it's on there, but the servers will not connect via Linux

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (8 children)

i did my part. got about 40 of them last year.

epic freebies from 2024 played: 0

epic freebies from 2024 installed: 0

the only freebie of theirs i have installed right now is one of the CIVs.

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