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That's what you get for voting for a death cult, Zoomers. (lemm.ee)

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[–] sheepy@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yet another person with a lack of understanding of why Trump won.

He got about the same amount of votes as in the last election. It's the Democrats that couldn't get people to vote for them.

What I think were the main causes are not dropping Biden sooner, failure at acknowledging his shortcomings, failure at taking a stance on Palestine and attempting to appease the right instead of their core voters.

None of these have much to do with zoomers.

EDIT: Compared to 2020, Republicans gained 3.08 million votes, while Democrats lost 6.27 million.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

How many didn't turn out due to voters suppression and intimidation? How many didn't vote because they believed it wouldn't count? America is a flawed democracy

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Die hard dem supporters will blame anyone except the actual party who put on a total loser of a campaign. Noone is to blame for the dems losing except, shocker, the dems.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who voted for someone that stupid deserves blame as well.

[+] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who lost to someone that stupid deserves more.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

. You know, fun, wild concept. But reality is complex and people who try and reduce things down to a single blameable target are simple and easily manipulated.

[+] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ha. Like all the dem bootlickers who have been manipulated into blaming their fellow americans rather than the party that actually made the choice to sell out the country? Keep being manipulated.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I see you couldn't read my comment. So, let me play it for you straight. Blame can be shared. The people are an issue. The party is also an issue. Both should be blamed.

People who think it's just the party being terrible are ignoring the decades of work the Republicans put in to manipulate dip shits. Like you.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well thats incredibly reductive and disingenuous. I never said the people weren't to blame, but theres a whole lot of really annoying people running around acting like the whole election is the fault of uncommited/palestine protest voters, and the democrats are blameless and ran a perfect campaign. Out of those two groups, there's only one whose actions actually could have altered the outcome of the election when you take it down to the numbers, and thats the democratic party. Setting aside the fact rhat they implicitly have blame because its their only job to convince people to vote for them, they still wouldn't have won even if every single protest voter had voted democrat. But even if that werent the case, the career politicians bear vastly more responsibility for the outcome of elections than any individual person.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You explicitly stated ONLY the democratic party was to blame and no one else. You cannot just ignore what you said lmfao. You did say, EXPLICITLY that they weren't to blame . I wasn't being disingenuous. You are, right now.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 5 days ago

Youre right, i said that. As i said in my pther reply, what i should have said is that there is no value in blaming individuals, but there is value in blaming the party.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Overall agreed, but:

I never said the people weren’t to blame

Except in your first comment where you said nobody is to blame but the party?

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah okay fair. I didnt reread my whole comment chain, and ive had multiple other chains of thought going on since then. Let me rephrase. Theres no value in blaming the people, however there is value in blaming the party.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Hmmm... yeah, ok, I think I agree with that too actually

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck off divisive bullshit. Every generation ever has been attempted to be alienated like this, it is just more divide and conquer tactics, do not fall for it. It is still just owning class vs working class.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I got it.

They should listen to MORE toxic masculinity. Those three obviously represent the working class.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why are you convinced that all Gen Z listen to that kind of crap and nobody outside of Gen Z does? Generations have little to nothing to do with it.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

well the meme isn’t saying all gen z do, or only gen z… but it’s still more anti-“some generation” bullshit… which, btw, is completely arbitrary… i don’t know how people convinced themselves to divide people in to different groupings every 20 years….
baby boomers made sense, because that was a noteworthy event… otherwise it’s all stupid

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Having not read the book, is The Stand at least a quick apocalypse?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It was not. And then the uncut edition came along.

We are boned (unless you're Nadine).

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

She got boned so good her hair turned white.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

It took about a month to wipe out humanity, but was an absolutely horrible way to die.

The nice thing is they've developed a vaccine for bird flu.

Bad thing is we now have an anti-vax anti-science Health Secretary.

The billionaire class and the administration will absolutely get it (so will Putin, Xi, Orban ect)

Us? Absolutely not.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The stand is an awesome book with a few dated tropes/language. With that in mind, I recommend it. Some of the characters live rent free in my head.

Edit I'm big dumb and misread your comment

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A higher percentage of voters aged 18-29 supported Harris than any other age group, but I guess don't let the facts get in the way of yelling at those damn kids like every other generation has done since forever

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah Im Gen X and we voted this guy in twice because we all grew up with leaded fuels and paint.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

no, the boomers grew up with that

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gen X did as well

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

“The United States and many other countries began phasing out the use of TEL in automotive fuel in the 1970s”.
“ in 1971, Congress banned the use of lead-based paint in residential projects (including residential structures and environments) constructed by, or with the assistance of, the federal government. The Consumer Product Safety Commission followed with implementing regulations, effective in 1978.”.
“gen x generally defined as people born from 1965 to 1980”.

so, yeah kinda right… but even before the ban people were a lot more cautious about child lead exposure… i’m right at the cusp of between x and millennial so i often forget how far back gen x goes.
and there’s this weird thing where younger generations are conflating gen x with boomers but, they hate boomers more than anyone else.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Was gonna say, in my experience gen z is largely left-leaning

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More of that 18-24 demographic voted for Trump than before.

https://circle.tufts.edu/2024-election#the-youth-electorate-was-more-republican-and-conservative-in-2024

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is also true and a real problem, but it would be more accurate to say that more of that 18-29 demographic who turned out to vote voted for Trump than before

We estimate that 42% of young voters (+/- 1%), ages 18-29, cast ballots in the 2024 presidential election, a lower youth turnout than in 2020—when our early estimate put youth turnout above 50%—and approximately on par with the 2016 presidential election.

We also estimate that youth voter turnout in battleground states may have been much higher: 50% on aggregate in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Young voters cast 14% of all ballots in the 2024 election, according to the National Election Pool exit poll conducted by Edison Research. While this number may be adjusted in the coming days, and other data sources may show different numbers, this 2024 youth share of the vote was also lower than in 2020 (17%) and 2016 (19%) based on the same data source.

https://circle.tufts.edu/2024-election#overall-youth-turnout-down-from-2020-but-strong-in-battleground-states

I would be interested to see how that 50% number for those battleground states compares to the percentage of 18-29 voters who turned out in those same states in 2020 and 2016, but I think the general story here isn't that zoomers are actually getting more conservative but that the Democratic party did a terrible job getting their young voters to turn out

[–] ackables@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Well yeah and the anti-Biden/Harris rhetoric around Palestine was mainly circulating on TikTok among GenZ voters. It was a very strong anti-turnout message being pushed to the likely Democrat GenZ voters.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Im in a swing state and none of my friends voted for him, we all were for harris.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I know it's purely anecdotal, but I also only know of Gen z voters that went for Harris. I life in California thought so that might have something to do with my data set lol

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is the gigantic gender gap, far bigger than any other cohort (something like a 30 or 40 point spread between gen z men and women's voting). Many young men have a terminal case of Elon Musk and/or Andrew Tate brain.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, they have an incurable case of Elon Musk and/or Andrew Tate brain. If it was terminal, we might have been able to avoid this timeline.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

Kind of a weird look to beat up on kids with shitty politics during an apocalypse, like sure there are plenty of toxic Zoomers but most of them have extremely amateur immitations of the toxic politics of whatever shithead rolemodel they look up to.

Be mad at the people these kids are idolizing, kids are impressionable that is the whole point of being a kid.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

We all get fucked.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which generations built the landscape in which the only 2 viable options where genocidal maniacs?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Tad overwhelming that there are 5.

https://www.businessinsider.com/genocides-still-going-on-today-bosnia-2017-11?op=1

Edit: oh 2017.

Might be 6 then, unless one ended.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

I don’t think it such a big thing to ask that a presidential candidate supports none of these genocides?