Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
You're presenting a selective history.
And yes, although the Israeli army has plenty of war criminals that should be sent to The Hague along with Netanyahu for their actions in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria, Hamas was never justified in kidnapping Israeli citizens in the first place. Terrorism is never justified, and terrorists on both sides deserve to be tried for their war crimes, as should be the case in any war.
I suspect that is why you were banned. Nothing about Trump. People like to do this, present one complimentary fact about their case and pretend that innocent thing was the whole reason for the response, instead of the less complimentary things they also did.
You are not by any means wrong in that statement. Hamas has no right to kill, rape, and kidnap a bunch of young Israeli civilians who have nothing to do with the occupation except having happened to be born in a country whose government is committing atrocities, and no amount of war crimes by the IDF would give them that right. However, I will have to say that trying to say that true fact in a Palestine community specifically, is probably a tactical error, and will lead to no good outcome and often to a ban.
PTB, I guess, technically, but asking people whose family members are being killed to sit still while you to tell them their side is also the bad guys is quite a lot to ask.
If it were me, I would focus more specifically on the fact that letting Trump get elected has now absolutely doomed everyone in Gaza and quite a lot of people in the West Bank. With Biden it was already a genocide. Under Trump, it's now going to be an accelerated genocide, with much grander scope and ambition.
If it were me, I would focus more specifically on the fact that letting Trump get elected has now absolutely doomed everyone in Gaza and quite a lot of people in the West Bank.
Yup. Trump just started pressuring Jordan and Egypt to take more Palestinian “refugees”. I never saw the Democrats advocating for forced deportations despite all their other enablement.
Israel had intel of the October 7 attack at least 3 days before it from Egypt and internal sources and allowed it to happen.
Fuck Israel. A genocidal colonial settler state deserves the violence it receives.
You’ve had awful takes on this, constantly defending Israel’s genocidal actions, and I’m sick of reading them. Armed resistance is warranted in the face of genocide. Blocking your dumbass.
Israel had intel of the October 7 attack at least 3 days before it from Egypt and internal sources and allowed it to happen.
Correct. They've also been arranging for funding for Hamas, going to bat for them against their domestic opponents, because having a more violent organization representing Palestine gives them excuses for what they wanted to do anyway. They've been pretty explicit about this. They love having Hamas around killing Israelis, because it makes it look a lot more justified when they feel like killing Palestinians, which is always.
You’ve had awful takes on this, constantly defending Israel’s genocidal actions, and I’m sick of reading them.
Ah yes, who could forget all the times I defended Israel's genocidal actions. Which ones though? Which messages defending Israel's actions were your favorites?
Edit: Typo
If that was indeed the reason, then that only serves to support the notion that general disagreement, rather than just extremism, is what is being banned from that community. They have every right to ban advocates of genocide for extremism, but in no way do I think that supporting Palestine without supporting Hamas is a position worthy of a ban.
Well... you might have a point. Supporting Palestine without supporting Hamas isn't precisely what you said, though. You said "terrorism" from the Palestinian side. I think without carefully qualifying that to mean that you're only talking about events like October 7th, it's easy for someone to assume you're using the Israeli definition, where any type of resistance at all is "terrorism."
Like I say, I agree with you on this. In any other community I think it would be a clear-cut PTB case of censorship. I'm just saying that when dead family members are involved you have to be extremely careful what you present and how, because it's going to be the easiest thing in the world for people to get heated at you for it.
you were drawing an equivalence between actions of occupied people resisting their occupation and the people responsible. Saying that they were both terrorists. On the comm for the occupied people.
Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself, YDI
Everyone has a right to defend themselves.
But, that is not what Israel has been doing.
No, colonizers never have a right to defense.
If it is worth anything I acknowledge that I can't mod the community on my own anymore and I am looking for mods. The thread that lead to the massive bans had users tacitly or blatantly celebrating the genocide and how worse it might get for Palestinians in the future.
Apply here: https://lemm.ee/post/53822281
I am also willing to handover the community entirely and become a normal member. I'm too emotionally invested in the cause. Not sure how to do this though.
I will not be seeing the responses here. I am temporarily blocking the community to save [what's left of] my sanity.
What exactly do you mean by "protest voting"?
People who voted third party, Republican, or simply refused to vote (basically helping the Republicans win in some way) because they disagreed with the Democrats. That's my interpretation of it anyway.
You prolly right but I want to clarify a bit more.
Voting Trump is not a protest vote, you would be still voting the regime.
This ain't about who is the president this is about owner class picking the president, it doesn't matter to them who wins as long as this person will do their bidding.
Last time we had president get to pro pedon class, he got wacked like a CEO.
Carter was a decent dude but they cucked him pretty strong.
Ever since then we have been getting progressively more impotent cucks in the white house. Obedient lap dogs of the owner class.
Who would have thought that Obama was the end of hope...
I've been on the angry end of that mod. I can tell they're passionate about the cause but yeah, feels like they're quick to assume the worse of others in a disagreement.
As much as I support the Palestinian cause as a POC raised Muslim (and simply being a person with basic observation skills), I avoid interacting with that particular community because of them.
A lot of good stuff is shared there, so I don't block them but man, not great with the community building...
I can tell they're passionate about the cause but yeah, feels like they're quick to assume the worse of others in a disagreement.
As someone with many hot/slightly unpopular takes around here, this is very common on the Fediverse. Probably more so than Reddit.
You can do mental gymnastics all you want but the fact is that under Biden there was no ceasefire and under Trump there is
Edit: now trump is saying gazans shouldn't be allowed back in so looks like we both eat crow
I was willing to give trump the benefit of the doubt re Gaza but I’m totally unsurprised he was full of shit
By a "cease fire," do you mean an end to the shooting? We haven't had that. The shooting has actually spread to the West Bank now. Here's a video from 51 minutes ago of some of it happening:
Just block the mods. The fediverse is wide
YDI. I like the whitewashing of your own actions here. To go into the comm for an occupied people in the middle of a genocide and start telling them they deserved it is disgusting, and you're filth for doing so.