Ugh. I guess it’s starting. Anyone placing bets on how long before Trump does a complete about-face on the situation and starts running joint missions with Russia against Ukraine? I’m morbidly suspicious that might really be how things end up.
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This isn't exactly a secret. Remember in the debate when he said he'd end the war, and refused to say which side he'd be on?
So president of a nation that has the motto "give me liberty or give me death" is saying this.
The people who voted for him tend to prefer "Don't tread on me" which makes it even more ironic.
Well yeah, the full saying is "Don't tread on me, tread on ukraine instead". They just shortened it
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Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.
You might not believe me but anyone can just walk into maralargo. Trump won't have you trespassed, he will offer you a cash deal to leave. Trust me, it's true. Ez money.
This is why he's having such a hard time getting Musk to leave. How do you make a problem go away when your only problem solving skill is bribery and your problem is a higher degree of wealth than your bribing power?
Fuck Trump you spineless corporate shill
Honestly I'm more worried about the NATO 5% thing which is blatantly designed to fracture the alliance.
The number was 2%, and many didn't hit that. 5% is never going to happen and is going to be Trump's cause to pull out, mark my words. Thankfully Congress put some stops in there, but doesn't mean Trump can't fuck things up bigly.
Ukraine can schlump along with NATO sans USA, but no NATO and Ukraine is finished.
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America hasn't had to deal with the recieving end of Imperialism for almost 250 years. (its been on the giving end of it for the last century) America is in no position, not Trump, not Elon, not Biden, not the dude that just wants to grill. None of them are in a position to tell someone not to fight for freedom, when there is an actual threat of losing ones freedom and sovereignty. Most western countries have long forgotten what the struggle is all about because they've had their freedom for centuries.
Ukraine's fight has been going on for centuries, but 2022-Present has been the defining moment of that fight.
If you aren't going to help, shut the fuck up, and fuck off and let the rest of us handle it. Ukraine isn't going to stop fighting for its existence just because Part of America is tired and upset about superficial things like egg prices. If America isn't going to carry the torch of Liberty, there are plenty of others willing to take it from here.
Europe is having its issues too. It seems like the people are mad about taxes already, and aren't keen on the prospect on increasing them for military spending. They've already run huge deficits for COVID.
Many other powers are either not interested in this particular fight or can't afford to be.
I hate to sound so cynical, but I think Zelensky is smart to "work with" Trump (aka manipulate him) instead of denouncing him and kicking him to the curb like his country has every right to, because the drive to fight only goes so far against a truly genocidal adversary.
Really? So, Mexico can take back what they lost and the USA will not resist.
If by that you mean Texas? Please take it back.
Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he's finally figured out that he can't, in fact, just solve it?
Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.
Putin didn’t tell him to pound sand. Putin holds the leash. Everything Donald Trump says and does is to advance Russian interests.
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if only he hadn't fought back against being prosecuted.
he'd be in prison... or on death row... and we wouldn't be in this mess---again.
~~"Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia"~~
"Trump demostrates how little he understands about the conflict in Ukraine"
FTFY
No deal can be made with Putin when the ruthless conquest of rebuilding a Russian empire is Putin's goal.
This just confirms that Zelenskyy has a way bigger ball count than Trump by two.
It's easy to say don't fight back when you're not the one getting beaten up and mugged
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Trump is a malignant narcissist, and I'm pretty sure that's a requirement to have that opinion.
I can't imagine what would have satisfied Russia other than complete surrender. Ukraine had few other options than to fight. Uphill as their battle may have been.
Why would he say something so easily disproven at this point? If Ukraine should not have fought back they would have been defeated already.
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