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[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sigh... I miss the days when Rage Against The Machine focused on music and wasn't political.

Tap for spoilerI feel obligated to say this is sarcasm, just because of the way things are. (There are actually some people who said this to Tom on Xitter lmao.)

[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know right! The band didn't start getting political until 1991.

spoilerThe band was founded in 1991.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Now that I think of it the whole 90s didn't start getting political until around 1991.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stupid conservatives think, "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me," is speaking to them. Your spoiler / deflection is absolutely necessary. There are a lot of people who don't understand what they take in.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are a lot of people who don’t understand what they take in.

Sorry, that went way over my head. /s

[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What machine do these people think they are raging against? A dishwasher?

[–] 555@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

To be fair, it'd definitely be justified...

[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's entirely possible HP printers acted like a gateway to first experiencing true rage, that later led people into the maga cult.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Right wing guy in my discord said it was one of his 1st concerts. Like dude, are u deaf?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Organize and protect yourselves and those you care about, Nazis won't care.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Arm yourselves.

The Nazis are already armed.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep, becoming familiar with firearms is something I wish was unnecessary, but until the working class is liberated it's necessary. I dream of a future where the working class has won triumphantly, worldwide, and that violence fades into urban legend outside of somber historical remembrance.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Diesel, bear spray, propane, and gasoline don't care if you're wearing a bulletproof vest.

Just pointing that out in case it becomes relevant.

[–] AshLassay@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

hE sHoULd sTAy oUt oF puHLityiCks

[–] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'll upvote Tom Morello anytime

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Paradox of tolerance.

The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.

In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Edit - My mistake, I somehow was blind to the first in-.

 

In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

No we musn't. The intolerant have broken the social contract and are no longer extended that latitude.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Screw the paradox. Tolerance is a social contract. Intolerant people aren't covered by the contract, therefore intolerance of intolerance isn't hypocritical or paradoxical.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are agreeing. They said we must be INtolerant of intolerance.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Nazis deserve exactly as much mercy and tolerance as they give to others.

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Saw him play recently in Alabama. They were selling this phrase on a shirt. Much to my surprise, that shirt was sold out by the time I went to pick it up. I was pleasantly shocked.

[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Reading that makes me very happy! I try tell people this whenever I can: there's hope everywhere in America, no matter how red a state is now it can become blue one day. I was a Trump supporter myself and changed, other people can too! Think about all the people in Alabama who bought that shirt. If they banded together they could change Alabama for the better. Things won't be instant but perhaps they get a better mayor elected, then a better state representative then send someone better to the House, then one day a better Senator. If we try and work together it can happen!

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Saw someone wearing that shirt in a shopping mall in the UK!

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[–] JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The only viable solution when Nazis take control of government is violence. There is no reasoning with them, they are not logical.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is correct, and also, Nazis don't care about good faith argumentation. They're explicitly anti-liberal (as in, liberty, freedom) and will only pretend to have these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction ("You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?")

In this video of former white supremacists talking about how they left the ideology, one brings up that on their Nazi website, it was normal and common to argue for points they knew were garbage, like the Great Replacement theory. It's about power and results, not liberalist idealism.

Violent methods usually aren't the preferred way of dealing with Nazis (because it's harder to get a mass movement to join in and support it, and because it's riskier, legally, which makes it harder to sustain), but it works. It broke up the BUF in Britain, it's kept the local turds scared to show their faces or reveal their true thoughts (don't worry, they still usually get revealed by researchers anyway). Violence works. They know it and we know it. But when they're the government, their violence is now legal.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 days ago

History has proven this.

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Violence against Nazis isnt the answer, its a question and the answer is always yes.

[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago

This guy is based af

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

100% agreement here.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nazis deserve to be shot and killed

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