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Context https://lemmy.world/comment/14641595
Anyone, who doesn’t tread the „destroy Israel“ party line gets banned from !politics@lemmy.world
Edit: although people here hate Israel and different opinions with a passion, nobody could cite the actual rule I broke.
You don’t understand that ICJ genocide cases take years to legally prove therefore you think it isn’t genocide. They’ve killed 40,000+ civilians. That’s literally genocide. What did you expect? You should get off lemmy with such a horribly wrong opinion. No where should welcome such ideology.
Edit: bro thought they really got us with the edit
The number of dead isn’t sufficient for something to be called a genocide. A very special intent to destroy dolus specialis has to be proven.
Genocide is violence that’s targeted at individuals of a specific group because of their membership of said group in order to destroy the whole.
You reply that 40,000 isn’t enough since the most recent war? It starts over 100 years ago. How many need to die? All of their land but two small portions has been taken. Culture destroyed. Homes taken. Many killed.
No one with any human decency thinks like this. Read a book before you continue to cite non-existent facts.
Blocked.
Intent to destroy isn’t evident. The IDF took ample precautions against civilian deaths.
We don’t know how many combatants are among the 40,000. The only number available is the IDF estimate of 15,000. Hamas and other militant groups only publish their martyred combatants a while after hostilities have concluded and international attention has withdrawn.
A combatant to civilian death ratio of 1:3 would be fairly good for a war in a dense urban environment against a deeply entrenched and fortified enemy.
Also is you compared the destruction of buildings to the number of dead, it’s obvious that mostly empty buildings were destroyed.
Culture destroyed. Homes taken. Many killed.
Palestinian culture is very much alive in Israel and Palestine.
If you want to go over the last 100 years of this conflict, pay attention to the number of deaths. October 7th 2023 had the most deaths in a single day of the whole conflict. The ensuing Gaza war then followed up with likely more deaths in a year, than over the whole conflict combined including Arab armies.
Lots of terrible things happened before this war, but they don’t amount to genocide.
What’s been happening here is a watering down of the crime of genocide, just to demonize Israel.
You got banned for genocide denial because you were literally denying genocide. Did you think you weren't denying genocide, or did you think that denying genocide should be allowed on a politics community?
The ICJ has a reputation for its failures to stop past genocides and waiting until it does not matter anymore before they finally submit the judgement. Besides genocide denial you are factually incorrect.
YDI.
You're a genocide denier. No ifs, ands or buts.
YDI for the reasons others have already listed, and also Y'dDI here for your efforts to rule lawyer after the fact.
Yes, victims of abuse of power should just kiss the boot and shut up. /s
There's no "rule" against promoting genocide because it's just common human decency that shouldn't need a rule.
It's like making a rule against posting videos of yourself eating poop. Just don't do it.
If the price of stopping genocide denial is letting them eat poo freely online I will accept it.
Yet another person to tag as a Zionist in Voyager, so I can downvote any comments of theirs I run across.
But Israel IS demonic.
PTB. Substantive discussions around the definition of genocide are not the same as Nazis saying the Holocaust never happened or whatever and I think it’s ridiculous to conflate those things. There is no rule that would cover this other than one against misinformation—but OP has not challenged the facts on the ground, just the way language is being used. Language is always going to be a subjective and arbitrary thing.
That said, other things OP has said here might constitute misinformation so that makes me wonder if there is any missing context beyond this single comment.
YDI.
It's genocide by any other definition. You can split hairs all you want and call it "crimes against humanity" or whatever, but it's a distinction without much difference when we're talking about targeted missile strikes upon schools, hospitals, and apartment buildings. Pedantry isn't going to convey some nuance that people are missing, and the mods were right to put a stop to it.
What you said was disgusting and abhorrent. It should have been removed.
7 days is very lenient. Take it on the chin and reflect.
YDI and I’m blocking you for being a genocide denier and an overall fucking moron based on numerous comments.
Also I bet you’re a shit ass boyfriend why would anyone want to date a genocide denier.