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Italian town bans residents from falling sick (www.straitstimes.com)

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[+] finley@lemm.ee 81 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

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[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The mayor says that it's because the nearest hospital is 45 km away, but a full 16% of the US population, or roughly 55 million people, live further than that from a hospital (https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/health/hospital-deserts/index.html).

US healthcare really needs to stop looking like a third-world country.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

Well, that'd require us to stop being a 3rd world country. GDP aside more than 1 in 10 Americans live in relative poverty.

There are few effective social programs and a very authoritarian power structure even before the incoming clusterfuck.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why? At this point the US IS a third world country.

Look at it. There is a rich ruling class, and most that aren't in it are poor enough to barely make it to the end of the month. The countries main focus is the military, which is too notch, and the test just really sucks. Its led by a dictator wannabe and so rife with corruption that they don't even try to hide it anymore.

Any other county would be called a third world country, why not the US? Just because it's in absolute terms rich doesn't mean that all join in the riches or rights.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, now, that's unfair to third world countries. Some of them actually have functioning public health systems.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Italy's population density is twice that of the US.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Rural hospitals have been getting shut down for years now due to it not being a great money maker, it’s the same reason rural Americans wouldn’t have to their door mail access without it being included in the Constitution.

Even without taking population density into account, access is only going to get worse when hospitals keep shuttering.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a matter of low profit, it's a matter of loss. Modern healthcare is too expensive to serve small populations.

And like the USPS, one more reason healthcare should be government funded, to serve those who can't profitably be served.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Honestly “modern healthcare” was pushing it for a lot of them even when they were open, due to decades of cuts and lack of investment. The (now closed) hospital that was in the rural community I grew up in had a reputation for being a place you went if you had no other choice, or it was a very minor emergency even they couldn’t fuck up. My parents floored it to the nearest city (40 minute drive) every time my mom went into labor, despite the local hospital being maybe 15 minutes away max if you drove the speed limit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nearly 16 percent of America's mainland is 30 miles or more away from a hospital with emergency care.

The next time they state that the wording is confusing. On first read I thought it was 16% of the population.

Look at the map in your article. Pictured are vast tracks of deserts, mountains, badlands, etc. And look even closer. That spot in NY is where a bunch of wilderness areas come together. The spots in FL are swamps. I've driven through that spot in OK, it's beautiful, but mostly empty of humans.

Besides, 28 miles to a hospital isn't too awful, unless you're grievously injured. The vast majority of healthcare is taken care of by smaller units. Even in my little town we have 2 stand-alone emergency rooms (and a full hospital).

Now if I just had insurance and could afford to go to those places... Coming down with bronchitis today, nothing I can do unless I spend the last of my savings.

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Their wording is confusing, but I think what you first understood is correct. Over 30 million Americans don't even live within an hour of a trauma care department (and an hour is further away): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28069138/

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

The US is absolutely not a third world country. Now, a developing country . . .

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 23 points 3 weeks ago

“This is not just a provocation, the ordinance is a cry for help, a way to shine a spotlight on an unacceptable situation,” Mr Torchia told local news outlet Corriere della Calabria.

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Do even English people say "I've fallen sick"? Sounds so dramatic.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 26 points 3 weeks ago

"I've fallen ill" is a common expression in the UK. "Fallen sick" would be a little unusual

[–] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

..and I can’t get up!

[–] CreatingMachines@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Call an ambulance!

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

In this economy???

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Life alert is a life saver! I wouldn't be here without life alert.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But not for me!

[–] CreatingMachines@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Finally

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Down with the sickness.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LTT0xwdfw

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Some cultures even use the phrase "fallen pregnant".

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 20 points 3 weeks ago

For those that are curious, this decree was meant to highlight a lack of access to healthcare in the area. It's supposed to be ridiculous to catch the attention of regional health leaders.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People taking vitamins and vaccines when you can just ban illness! Novel approach.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Vitamins don't do anything for health unless you are vitamin deficient.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure they do. They harm your health if used in excess.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless you're going absolutely insane with them you'll typically just pee them out.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not vitamin D.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The D is stored in the balls

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not that surprised. If you live in a rural area, you aren't going to get the services of a city. Hospital care is part of that.