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submitted 3 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Journalists are increasingly abandoning X (formerly Twitter) for Bluesky, citing higher engagement and less toxicity. Since Elon Musk’s takeover of X, changes like deprioritizing external links and rising hate speech have alienated many, especially marginalized groups.

Bluesky, founded by Jack Dorsey, offers a more welcoming environment, especially for journalists and activists, with 20x the engagement in some cases.

Reporters note better traffic, reduced harassment, and a focus on diverse stories.

Organizations like The Guardian and fundraising groups also report greater success on Bluesky compared to X.

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[-] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 85 points 3 weeks ago

"There's no chance this leopard will eat my face."

--Migrating Journalists, probably

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well, it's not like it's the exact same dude who sold the old platform to fascists last time, right?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bluesky is a registered public benefit company and Dorsey is no longer with the company and no longer on the board.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 weeks ago

Phew .... then we can trust the open software that is locked to one company and one instance essentially leaving control to a handful of people.

What could go wrong?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not saying open software isn’t awesome. I’m simply correcting a common misconception.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, there is nothing wrong with Open Software .... the problem is the way Bluesky is being arranged and developed. They are essentially cornering the development to create a situation where only one company and one group maintains dominate control over everything and everyone.

The track record so far since the popular world wide internet started is that if a popular social media platform is controlled by one group, one company or even one person, it will eventually turn into a tool of monetization and control and it will eventually degrade and dissolve.

The only difference this time is Bluesky is supposedly built on open source software, which is true .... but the whole platform and system is corned, controlled and managed by only one company and one group.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They're actively working on making it easier to fork the entire platform.

There's already 3rd party account hosts, moderation labelers, feed generators, and alternative implementations like whitewind (blogging system on top of the same account repo & lexicon architecture) were you can use the exact same account. All of these works together independently of which hosts / providers you use.

Relays and microblogging appviews (a fully functional bluesky mirror) are technically possible but more expensive to duplicate but there's work on making that practical too.

You can already bypass PLC by using DID:Web for account identity.

The single most important thing if you want to be able to recover from bluesky going bad is to just back up your account recover signing key, and to keep a recent backup of the repo to preserve your post history and social network (follows, etc).

All the rest can be rebuilt if you have your account hey and backup. The content addressing will make it seamless!

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[-] Fediverse_Champion@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago

Open AI changed to a for profit company in a heartbeat and these folks can too.

More worrying is who owns them and their funding sources.

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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

"He's said he's sorry, and he's not going to do it again. You'll see. He's changed."

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

This time he bailed early though. He's got no control of the site

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago

No the site just owes a bunch of money to the crypto bros at Blockchain Capital.

Doesn't matter if Dorsey isn't there and if it's a PBC, if the investors want a return on their investment (and they do) enshittification is coming.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

More like

everyone else is, and I need to keep my job as a... you know, journalist

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago

I think Mastodon needs to adopt a flying animal as its logo and make its theme blue and white

[-] bricklove@midwest.social 29 points 3 weeks ago
[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Best not to prod the mouse.

Introducing "Masto! The flying elephant! A legally distinctive flying elephant than Dumbo!"

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Omg blue sky is a yeast infection LMAO 🤣

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 26 points 3 weeks ago

Im kinda pissed about this ngl. The enshitification of twitter was supposed to drive mastodon not another corporatised shithole.

[-] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 76 points 3 weeks ago

Wont happen until mastodon makes on boarding easy enough for the tech illiterate.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

And the name doesn't help.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that generally seems to be an issue with a lot of foss projects.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's not that surprising. Developing software requires a certain skillset, heavily based in logic. Understanding people requires a completely different skillset, and people tend to be more emotional than logical. Our brains just draw connections between different concepts that are, at their core, fundamentally illogical. A big business has the benefit of a marketing department, staffed by specialists who earn their paycheck by studying and manipulating people. Your average FOSS project doesn't have that advantage.

If you wanted some of that same advantage, you'd want to onboard some talented humanities or marketing specialist and give them the branding responsibilities.

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[-] Docus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Mastodon needs a lot of work before it becomes a mainstream option. They missed a big opportunity when twitter became toxic, and now they can’t compete against bluesky. Hope i’m wrong but i think they are doomed.

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[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

That is a major issue the fediverse needs to fix.

We need a single federated account that works across all platforms that iant tied to a single server even if said server goes down that preferably allows for your private key to be held by u. Ideally get this to work with the new passkey standard supported by google, apple, microsoft etc.

Then. We need to make a website that is like 3 simple steps.

Step 0: Option a) sign up with email Option b) sign up with username

Step 1: Select or search for 3 categories ur interested in

Step 2: Show me nsfw yes/no default no Show me extreme opinions yes/no default no (need to rework what word to use instead of "extreme") Show me bot accounts yes/no default yes

Step 2.5: automaticly send said user off to an instance that is the following:

  1. Respects their email/username sign up choice
  2. Related to their interests
  3. Respects their nsfw choice
  4. Is defederated from extreme instances for dont show me extreme opinions hexbear lemmy.ml etc 4.Respects the load any individual instance can handle that the instance admin can configure.

Step 3: user signs up to the instance they have been directed to

Step 4: reccommend people/communities etc fir them to follow/subscribe to. Reccommend blockliats for specific subjects, racist, tankie, asshole, nazi, etc.

Done!

Their already exists a standard for accounts just that its not yet been implemented into most services yet. Mastodon already has blocklists (although poorly managed and implemented). It wouldnt be too hard to make this website i could probably do it myself ngl.

Should probably also drop this vid into the proccess somewhere as a quick explainer.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago

It seems like Bluesky kind of did all of this with ATProto but they’re just met with constant criticisms

It’s like everyone agrees mastodon isn’t the “right” special concoction but any attempt ever made to do something different or better and people shoot it down because it’s “not open like mastodon”

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[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's what bluesky's DID based account identity does. Unless you make that key the sole authority (no key rotation, like nostr) then you need a registry as authority (like bluesky's PLC registry)

Bluesky specifically lets the account hosting server handle your auth, the directory points to where your account server is as in when you enter your handle, every 3rd party service and federated peer can do OAuth seamlessly to your account host. Then you can log into every compatible site with your handle, instead of having to get redirected "home" before you can interact. Your account server's repository keeps records of all your posts and your social network, and you can even migrate seamlessly across hosts.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah if they used Activpub then id be onboard 100%. Its just that there architecture is fundamentally incompatible with Activpub. Federation was supposed to destroy the fragmentation not join it.

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

Never going to happen. You're in the company of the people who have been saying "year of the Linux desktop!" for three decades or more.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

We used to be <1% we are now up to about 4%. We are on the slow lead in to the exponential curve.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, but instances / servers confuse most average users. We see this every single time there is a new big migration wave. People don’t get it, then bail.

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[-] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

This sort of thing will keep happening unless the FOSS world learns to treat designers as equals. Mastodon is significantly harder to get going. Simple things like on-boarding and starter packs make BlueSky a better experience.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All we gotta do is wait for Bluesky to get bought by Musk.

Full circle!

[-] bambam@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Dont fret Mastadonians. The great Bsky to Fediverse migration is inevitable. Only the timing is debatable.

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 22 points 3 weeks ago
[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, but it's 1000x worse now.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

yoo not call mii toxic, i hav big brian.

Reguards Elon Mush.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

News orgs would have set up their own Mastodon instances ages ago and moved there if they were even 10% as "liberal" as the wingers claim they are...

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Good, but Mastodon has been a great option for a long time...

[-] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

You ----------------> Horse

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