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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 218 points 3 weeks ago

Alternate headline:

"Marjorie Taylor Greene confirms she is hiding Republican crimes or scandalous behavior."

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 weeks ago

This is the talking point.

[-] john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net 140 points 3 weeks ago

release the report!!! 🙂

[-] nolefan33@sh.itjust.works 81 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's just a win-win at this point

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Been hearing this for days, and it's just such a weird self-own at this point. It's bizarre enough that I can't decide if this is meant to scare them into submission or what? That's the only angle that makes sense.

[-] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's also probably illegal blackmail (threatening to release private information that is of a humiliating nature unless someone acts in a certain way seems to fit the bill), assuming she is threatening specific people. But as usual, it's so shameless and the threat is done in full view of the public, so I guess everyone's cool with that now.

Edit: Not illegal apparently/sadly, see below.

[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thanks, I definitely didn't remember this, but reviewing it in the era we're about to enter is pretty depressing:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S6-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013300/

...They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

As succinctly described by the Court, the Clause’s immunity from liability applies even though their conduct, if performed in other than legislative contexts, would in itself be unconstitutional or otherwise contrary to criminal or civil statutes. This general immunity principle forms the core of the protections afforded by the Clause.

Once it is determined that the Clause applies to a given action, the resulting protections from liability are absolute, and the action may not be made the basis for a civil or criminal judgment against a Member. In such a situation, the Clause acts as a jurisdictional bar to the legal claim

Basically, I assume GOP congressional members are going to be Trump's attack dogs like we've never seen, since they can threaten outright criminal conduct without repercussion.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Why wouldn't this be felony extortion (not covered by speech and debate clause)?

[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's not a strong enough argument there. If the things that were said around Jan 6 weren't enough to break through this protection, vague threats probably won't do it either.

Law only goes as far as political will.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 22 points 3 weeks ago

It's a threat. She's telling them to not release the report, or else.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but why her own party? Like if one comes out, she's just going to blow up the rest? It's just such a weird take.

[-] islands@lemmy.cafe 12 points 3 weeks ago

Because Gaetz is her bestie and she knows he's in danger of not getting the votes to get confirmed. The hardcore trumpists will absolutely use blackmail to get what they want. And they don't want to lose face by having a trump pick get defeated early on. But yeah, she should have leaned on them privately, not in public. She's not the smartest.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

That entire group of people are shitheads. They don't care about eachother past being in the same party.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 weeks ago

Wasn't QAnon supposed to be all about protecting kids from evil pedophiles in the government?

But as soon as an actual child molester is nominated to a government position they've got his back all the way.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago

Let.Them.Fight

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

A comment like that should get her on a stand, under oath.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 weeks ago
[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 35 points 3 weeks ago

If the dems had any balls they'd just go ahead and release them all right now.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

So do it, coward. Release everything.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

So... I'm gonna guess she's entangled with Gaetz various crimes in some way.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Either that or they're just fucking and she's trying to defend her man

[-] terribletortoise@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Vraylle@fedia.io 21 points 3 weeks ago

Don't threaten me with a good time!

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Then fucking do it, you beach-blonde butch bastard.

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

No. Don't. Stop.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 16 points 3 weeks ago

So her previous call to have everything on the table was just a tantrum, hoping it would scare the other side.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Release it. That harridan scares noone

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Annnd, he's out. So does that mean he's a congressman and the ethics report is back on again?

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Do it! Go Marge?

[-] UnexpectedBehavior@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

So a win-win situation?

[-] hylobates@jlai.lu 8 points 3 weeks ago

Very serious question: can't someone leak this report even illegally?

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

She won’t do it she’s not brave enough

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Times of india, shitty source.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can check out the xit posted to xitter that's right in the article if you want. Nothing wrong with the info in the article, there are other sources as well.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

not questioning the story, just that maybe we shouldn't post Times of India links and give them money

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] PeepWilliams@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Your threats don’t threaten me, woman.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was confused and didn't realise it was blackmail until this version of the headline.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.

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